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I'd estimate in NYC that 90% of deliveries I get are made by bicycle, so their average expenses are comparatively very low.
Though the significant risk to life and limb from working on a bicycle has to be accounted for.
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The delivery vehicles being used in NYC are almost entirely e-bikes, so the expense is not as big as you might be thinking. It's certainly nothing close to the cost to gig workers for running an Uber car.
So does it include health and sick pay for when you get injured or older and you’re less mobile? Cycling all the time could be way more taxing than driving.
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Does this also introduce a bad incentive for drivers to delivery food slowly? Or do delivery apps account for that somehow already?..
I'm pretty sure Doordash tracks that and will boot drivers that don't deliver quickly as that affects their bottom line.
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Which if I recall correctly they are only profitable due to a one time revenue boost right of something like hundreds of millions ? And that one time "revenue" boost was that a company they own they are asserting is now valued more than last year. And they are calling that "revenue".
No, it's operating profit.
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Indeed, it would be better if doordash would just hire full time employees. And vet them before hiring with a regular interview process. Instead of constant punitive surveillance with the threat of instant unemployment. Can you imagine if your dev job was like this? Picking up jobs to write a single function. And if youre too slow, or one too many tests fail you get sacked.
The “problem” is that many (most?) delivery cyclists in NYC aren’t legally allowed to work, so this option would be jeopardizing a large part of their workforce (bad for DoorDash) while also being bad for the workers themselves (who aren’t exactly swimming in job options). I’m not making a value judgement here, just weighing in with a tradeoff to consider.
many (most?) delivery cyclists in NYC aren’t legally allowed to work
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Than (e-)biking on roads alongside metal boxes? This ain’t biking through the woods. Just think about the pollution and chance of getting hit.
How often are people on e bikes getting mowed down where you live? What kind of hellscape do you live in where cycling causes you to ingest more polluted air than sitting in your bioweapon-proof, hermetically-sealed, fart-fermenting 3000 kilo Tesla? Sheesh
Because anywhere that has any air pollution, you'll ingest more when you're breathing harder and have no air filter.
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Indeed, it would be better if doordash would just hire full time employees. And vet them before hiring with a regular interview process. Instead of constant punitive surveillance with the threat of instant unemployment. Can you imagine if your dev job was like this? Picking up jobs to write a single function. And if youre too slow, or one too many tests fail you get sacked.
> Can you imagine if your dev job was like this? Mine is. We have stack ranking and it's a living nightmare.
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Wouldn't this incentivize Dasher's to... take longer to deliver? This whole model feels screwed up to me.
And as an additional incentive, DoorDash has decided to fuck with tips!
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This was not very doable pretty much everywhere outside NYC. The lower density of restaurants made it harder for delivery to be a thing except all the pizza places that offered it.
That's a generalization with no supporting data. As an actual sample size of 1; I lived in a smaller city of only about 250k people and there was a huge selection of restaurants that offered delivery, not just pizza. Honestly DoorDash when it did come reduced restaurant profits, lowered quality of food delivered, and increased consumer costs. Zero advantage for anyone other than DoorDash unless you consider being abl…
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And if you called the restaurant enough, you typically got on a first name basis with them and had incredible customer service. Now you're just another customer #47523 that created order #37324.
> And if you called the restaurant enough, you typically got on a first name basis with them and had incredible customer service. Also Caller ID isn’t that new.