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Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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Look, a couple of hundred thousand people commute across the border on the island of Ireland and there's huge cultural issues around basically everything. The Republic of Ireland would never be in a different timezone to the UK as long as part of the UK is on the island of Ireland. It's just not going to happen.

That may be, but don’t call a neighboring time zone “friction”. I grew up next to Indiana, a state notorious for screwing up their time. (Scroll down to “History” and each decade for past 70 years.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana

Yeah it was a big shock to me when I crossed that timezone between Chicago and Indiana.

Look, it's a cultural thing. The reason that we have peace on the island is due to constructive ambiguity. Half the population can pretend they're Irish, the other half can pretend they're British. Anything that makes that more difficult is not a runner.

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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Portugal is already an hour behind the rest of Europe.

1 hour behind central, now would be 2 hours.

"central" today being both France and Germany — according to the proposal would be 2 hours behind Germany but still same 1hr behind France.

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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Then you just need to implement a global system of determining how people's activities are aligned locally. What you end up with is timezones by another name. Timezones are a lot less of a problem now that we are using calendar apps to book events. Better integration of tools to negotiate availability would make that even easier. The problem that people largely govern their activities by the rotation of the earth and…

But why I need to come up with system similar to timezones? You translate all hours once and that's it, no? It might be weird at first have business hours from 9pm to 3am, but those are just numbers. I don't find it any more weird than starting a day at 6am.

It’s not about local time. It is about a way to find out when someone at a distance is active and available. You need some method to know that. Timezones are such a method.

Re: Proposal on implementing permanent time zones in the European Union

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Non hour time zones are an abomination

Time zones are arbitrary and the result of a historical accident. If the standardisation of timekeeping were to have happened in Amsterdam (not unlikely seeing the history of telescope development[0]) the issue would have been moot as UTC would be what is now UTC+0:19:32.13. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_telescope

15 degrees an hour is not arbitrary.

It’s an astronomical fact

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