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Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Post by jstummbillig »

sasaf5 wrote: post #140
convexstrictly wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Greg Brockman works 60 to 100 hours per week, and spends around 80% of the time coding. Former colleagues have described him as the hardest-working person at OpenAI." https://time.com/collection/time100-ai/6309033/greg-brockman...

I am either skeptical or envious of such claims. Someone coding so much would quickly be launched into meetings to communicate one's results and to coordinate with others. It would be my life's dream to spend 80 hours per week coding without having to communicate with others... but no one is an island...

OpenAI is an absolute unicorn, and not in the bullshit-1-mrd-vc-money-dollar sense but in being truly outstanding. Since all they do is software, that is solely because of the people involved, being able to do things and doing things that other people won't and achieving things that other people don't.

When it comes to sports it's fairly obvious what outliers look like and well accepted that they exist. I don't see a single reason to believe, that the same would not be true in every other walk of life or thinking that OpenAI just got lucky (considering how many people are trying to get lucky right now with less success in this space).

There are extraordinarily effective people in this world, and they are sparse and it's probably not you or me (but that's completely fine with me, I am happy to stretch myself to the best of my abilities).

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Post by miohtama »

konschubert wrote: post #253
philovivero wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who grey-texted this comment? So confused who could disagree with it. Is that the problem, this comment is so obviously true, it's just redundant?

The problem is that you cannot finance the training of a competitive AI model and then turn around and give it all away for free. Who's supposed to pay for that?

Open and paid are not mutually exclusive. Someone is paying for Linux kernel development as well.

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Post by seanhunter »

aidaman wrote: post #61

GPT5 pre-training just ended I believe. Brock, Pachocki, Szymon Sidor, would have likely all been involved. These are huge losses. Pachocki led pre-training for GPT-4, and probably GPT-5. Brockman is the major engineer responsible for the efficiency improvements that enabled ChatGPT and GPT-4 to be even remotely cost-effective. That is a piece that is often overlooked, but OpenAI's advantage over the competition in c…

Greg Brockman hasn't quit OpenAI. He quit the board[1].

   As a part of this transition, Greg Brockman will be stepping down as chairman   
   of the board and will remain in his role at the company, reporting to the CEO.
[1] https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transiti...

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Post by [deleted] »

mirzap wrote: post #193

This is escalating rather quickly. It is an incredibly irresponsible move by the OpenAI board. Hypergrowing company, and now they managed to shake up their user's trust in leadership stability. This has Adam's (D'Angelo) fingerprints all over it (for context, he did overthrow his co-founder, and Quora has been struggling ever since). This guy shouldn't sit on any board ever again. I predict the board will be fired, a…

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Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Post by jstummbillig »

seanhunter wrote: post #263
aidaman wrote: post #61

GPT5 pre-training just ended I believe. Brock, Pachocki, Szymon Sidor, would have likely all been involved. These are huge losses. Pachocki led pre-training for GPT-4, and probably GPT-5. Brockman is the major engineer responsible for the efficiency improvements that enabled ChatGPT and GPT-4 to be even remotely cost-effective. That is a piece that is often overlooked, but OpenAI's advantage over the competition in c…

Greg Brockman hasn't quit OpenAI. He quit the board[1]. As a part of this transition, Greg Brockman will be stepping down as chairman of the board and will remain in his role at the company, reporting to the CEO. [1] https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transiti...

https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Post by ajdegol »

romafirst3 wrote: post #236
makapuf wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

80h a week doing stuff does not prove your level at it, it proves your work capacity. Being good at something lies in the result and/or appreciation of your work by skilled pairs, which also seem to be there.

So why even claim he did 80 hours a week coding, while also being the chairman of the board? Can we get a pllleeeeeeaaaase???? He’s clearly a terrible programmer and/or a terrible chairman and to be honest this news says he’s at least 1 of 2 on the above.

Occasionally you meet people who shock you with how talented they are. I watched a couple of his presentations and he immediately reminded me of some of those people I’ve met before.

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Post by matthalvorson »

seanhunter wrote: post #263
aidaman wrote: post #61

GPT5 pre-training just ended I believe. Brock, Pachocki, Szymon Sidor, would have likely all been involved. These are huge losses. Pachocki led pre-training for GPT-4, and probably GPT-5. Brockman is the major engineer responsible for the efficiency improvements that enabled ChatGPT and GPT-4 to be even remotely cost-effective. That is a piece that is often overlooked, but OpenAI's advantage over the competition in c…

Greg Brockman hasn't quit OpenAI. He quit the board[1]. As a part of this transition, Greg Brockman will be stepping down as chairman of the board and will remain in his role at the company, reporting to the CEO. [1] https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transiti...

he tweeted he's leaving the company a few hours after the press release

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Post by gdiamos »

Rastonbury wrote: post #233
ssnistfajen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if OpenAI implodes it will hardly impact other LLM-focused startups. In fact it would probably be a boon for them as people search for GPT alternatives. Sam & Greg could start a new AI company by Monday and instantly achieve unicorn valuation. Hardly a burst.

This is almost certain to happen if they can snag the talent, I bet his phone is blowing up with VCs right now, revenge move and now unshackled from a non-profit nature of OpenAI

Where are they going to get the compute or the data?

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Post by mi_lk »

seanhunter wrote: post #263
aidaman wrote: post #61

GPT5 pre-training just ended I believe. Brock, Pachocki, Szymon Sidor, would have likely all been involved. These are huge losses. Pachocki led pre-training for GPT-4, and probably GPT-5. Brockman is the major engineer responsible for the efficiency improvements that enabled ChatGPT and GPT-4 to be even remotely cost-effective. That is a piece that is often overlooked, but OpenAI's advantage over the competition in c…

Greg Brockman hasn't quit OpenAI. He quit the board[1]. As a part of this transition, Greg Brockman will be stepping down as chairman of the board and will remain in his role at the company, reporting to the CEO. [1] https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transiti...

he sure did https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38312704
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