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Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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Re: Apple announces that RCS support is coming to iPhone next year

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The next significant step would be opening up iMessage and I'm pretty sure that Apple already has implemented most of it. Otherwise, they cannot realistically follow the DMA timeline in the worst case where EU designate iMessage as a gatekeeper.

iMessage is not really a gatekeeper in the EU, because the number of friend groups that are close enough to iPhone exclusive isn't that big. Instead we use any combination of Whatchapp, FB messenger, Snapchat and Signal.

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There's no one to block, you just won't be included when the groupchat is setup. Big problem for teens.

Personally, I'm happy to be left out of those, groupchat via MMS is awful. But then I'm not a teen, and when I was a teen, I was happy to be left out of a lot of things too.

> I'm happy to be left out of those, groupchat via MMS is awful

So are most people who prefer iMessage over MMS (aka “green bubbles”), which is kind of the point.

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As an Android user, it'd be nice if replying "No" to "Do you want RCS?" meant "Never ask me again" and wasn't just interpreted as "ask me again in next week and every week thereafter".

Pssst... you sure you don't want RCS? All your cool blue bubble friends are using it now!

What? Are you saying this in jest? Then I'm missing the humor because this is completely false...

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Very much not a trope. I personally know multiple people who refuse to text green bubbles, to the point of refusing dates from people who have Android.

And I know multiple people who refuse dates from those who have a zodiac sign that is “incompatible” with theirs. I think we can safely disregard that as a factor, despite how relatively not-that-rare it could be.

Yeah but bubbles sound like a class difference, astrology is just pseudoscience. People seldom get mocked for being a libra, but they often get prejudiced for having less money.

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Apple doesn't put a green bubble on SMS "to ostracize people's kids". Kids are ostracized just for having a default skin in Fortnite--because kids can be little shitheads. Apple differentiates because what you can do with SMS is different from what you can do with iMessage and that's a clear way to demonstrate it (and also to indicate if there's something weird going on when it changes from iMessage to SMS). RCS is a…

But they pick an ugly shade of green though. I currently have an iPhone 15 Pro Max and have also used Android devices in the past. I like to switch each time I get a new phone. Apple definitely picks an ugly color to make you feel uncomfortable texting with a non iPhone user. They should at least let users choose the color (which will never happen).

It’s the system “green” color. It’s used anytime there is a UI element that’s supposed to be green, same as system “blue” is used for iMessage and everything else in the OS.

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Hopefully I can turn it off. I do not know anyone who uses RCS who didn't end up on WhatsApp or Telegram pretty quickly afterwards.

Why would you turn it off? What if you hire a contractor for some work and they need to send you pictures/video from an Android? Or a realtor, mechanic, craigslist seller, or just someone you don't have/want a personal relationship with. You're not adding these people to WhatsApp/Telegram.. I have probably hundreds more phone contacts than people I have on whatsapp.

I had a mechanic send me a video about a problem with my car. He just SMSed me a link to their systems, where I could also approve the additional work after reviewing the video.

It worked just fine.

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I get your point but how is Ticketmaster not a parasitic price-gouger?

> I get your point but how is Ticketmaster not a parasitic price-gouger? Ticketmaster isn't the true price-gouger. It's actually the artist + promotor + venue that collectively set the high prices. Ticketmaster is just the administrative computer system to implement the high prices that the artist/promoter/venue want to charge. For example, top artists can negotiate to get 105% of ticket's face value from the concert…

Ticketmaster merged with LiveMaster, a promoter and venue owner/operator. They are the promoter + venue in your equation and have a global monopoly.

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I wonder what's the play here. They seem to make noise about RCS recently and give it attention, even though it seems they'll be forced by the EU to open up the iMessage system soon. Apple is not known for Google's "let's have 5 different communication apps at the same time", so... what's happening here?

There’s probably a few things at play. First, not every iPhone user can be iMessage-only and SMS is a shitty experience. In most non-US countries, they’re not winning the iMessage shame battle, they’re driving people to WhatsApp. They’d probably rather people use the built in messaging app, which will incentivize you to use iMessage. Secondly, getting more involved gives them opportunities to embrace/extinguish rcs (…

Frankly, the color distinction was never about shame. iOS needs a way to let the user know that they are talking to someone without iMessage and that they are using SMS to do so because many carriers charge for SMS use.

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The telcos don’t actually provide E2EE. That layer is offered by Google itself, and RCS carries encrypted data, last I checked. Not sure if Apple is going to interoperate with it.

> That layer is offered by Google itself > Not sure if Apple is going to interoperate with it. Only if both users in a 1:1 chat are using Google Messages. E2EE is not possible even with Samsung Messages, so I highly doubt it.

Wait so google doesn’t support e2ee for more than two devices in a chat?
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