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Early Europeans ate seaweed for thousands of years

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Re: Early Europeans ate seaweed for thousands of years

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Some of us still do! In Northern Ireland, we have a lesser-known seaweed dish called Dulce. https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20180522-the-renaissance-... It's tricky to find it fresh, you usually only get it in small greengrocers or at the Auld Lammas fair. Used to be quite cheap for a bag. Very salty but quite edible and said to be nutrient-dense.

And in Portugal we make soup out of it, and use them as vegetable in costal regions.

Really? What is the most well known sea weed based dish?

Re: Early Europeans ate seaweed for thousands of years

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Some of us still do! In Northern Ireland, we have a lesser-known seaweed dish called Dulce. https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20180522-the-renaissance-... It's tricky to find it fresh, you usually only get it in small greengrocers or at the Auld Lammas fair. Used to be quite cheap for a bag. Very salty but quite edible and said to be nutrient-dense.

Beat me to it! I used to get it as a kid in Donaghadee, not sure if you can still get it there though.

Re: Early Europeans ate seaweed for thousands of years

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> in Italian pasta with seaweed mixed All the rage at Italian/Japanese fusion joints (and honestly in Japan too - Japan loves pasta)

> All the rage at Italian/Japanese fusion joints Im going to take a wild guess and say this is not in Italy.

Perhaps not, but not such a far cry from squid ink in pasta in terms of intended effect eh

Re: Early Europeans ate seaweed for thousands of years

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Haha, I clicked on comment to be the token Northern Irishman bringing this up, but you beat me to it! I didn't know seaweed wasn't a common food until I moved to the Netherlands and started enquiring about the local seaweed, only to be met with blank looks or people pointing me to the sushi nori at Albert Heijn. I've been here for years and I still don't understand how such a seafaring nation with such an intimate co…

Cheese and milk products in general are popular because it keeps well in winter, and large swathes of the country would get flooded on occasion; only grass would survive, which cows eat, and cows produce milk. Hard to build underground cold storage as well in case of flooding or just a high water table. Cheese will save us all.

I deplore cheese. It’s a personal thing but I just cannot fathom people eat rotten solidified milk. Same applies to yogurt. I’ll happily eat seaweed and insects though.

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Why do you think people in North America no longer see offal (or seaweed) as edible food for humans despite the opposite? It's because of hyperindustrialization has distorted how these people view food ingredients.

What are you talking about? Tripe is a bog standard ingredient in Mexican cuisine seen on every menu from the southern tip of Mexico to Toronto. It’s the basis for sausages and hot dogs , an American staple. You can buy offal at almost any supermarket. Why would they carry it if people in North America didn’t see it as food? The reason most Americans don’t eat it is better options. Like rib eye steak and a salad. You…

Sorry, but you can't buy all offal in most American supermarkets.

Living in NYC, where you can get both tripe and liver easily - you have to go to "ethnic" stores to get heart, kidneys or lungs. (I have yet to see any lungs or intestines in any US store... and I mean ANY. I'd have to go to a butcher and order small intestines to make sausages.)

As for seaweed - it's primarily dried Japanese style seaweed that we can get in Costco's around NYC.

Re: Early Europeans ate seaweed for thousands of years

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It's news for the "modernized" people, that scoff at offal, weird mushrooms and "unusual" foods. Only a few peoples stopped consuming traditional foods, as one might expect.

I've tried tripe a few times and times and I can chew it, swallow it, sure, but its just so foreign to me that I don't seek it out any more.

There's plenty of foods that fall out as well.

No one is asking you to eat any intestines... but why common mushrooms, that are abundant, replaced by literally only ONE species?

Your regular store will have 5 types of mushrooms, that are all literally the same mushroom at different stages of maturity. (Agaricus bisporus is typically the ONLY fresh mushroom available at supermarkets in US)

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Ancient people did not see animals are beings with feeling, they were seen as useful production machines. It's only in modern times that we have the luxury of taking the animal's feeling into account at all. I'm sure you would want even more consideration for the animals, but it's much better today than it was.

"A wise person does not kill any living being." - Mahavira, 6th century BC (Translated, of course.)

We can easily conclude that Mahavira was either a dumb person, or an hypocritical one, 21th century AD.

Re: Early Europeans ate seaweed for thousands of years

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How do you know that "ancient people" never thought of animals as having feelings? Seems an extraordinarily broad claim given all the cultures and ages that encompass "ancient people"

Because I read some of their writings? The concept of a "Pet" was foreign to them. Animals - even dogs, were there to work. The concept of how an animal was feeling simply didn't occur to them. An animal was a tool, and you took good care of the tool, but not because of the tool, but because then it was more useful. It was the 18th century when animal rights started becoming a thing, which exactly corresponds with th…

some != "all people across all cultures for all time"
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