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Why is there a sudden interest in psytrance right now? Is it because of terror attack on the music festival in Israel?

Trance in general is on its way back. Even Tiesto just put a trance track out again.

Trance Pop has been big for a few years. Career Boy by Dorian Electra comes to mind but there are more.

Happy hardcore had a resurgence in 2021-2022 which is still going.

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post #190

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Trance in general is on its way back. Even Tiesto just put a trance track out again.

Trance Pop has been big for a few years. Career Boy by Dorian Electra comes to mind but there are more. Happy hardcore had a resurgence in 2021-2022 which is still going.

> Trance Pop

Like Armin’s last album.

Progressive Trance coming out of Anjuna has been huge for a while too.

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I stopped listening around the time of Infected Mushroom's Vicious Delicious . The genre seemed to jump the shark around that time. Looking back Goa Trance was the real trance and by 2000 it was already starting to go down the shitter.

Whilst I do like a lot of Infected Mushroom's stuff I've always seen them as the cheesy, commercial, "like it ironically" side of psy-trance. I don't consider them truly representative of psy-trance, at least the eurocentric versions I listen to. Although I do like the variety that has developed, especially when there's multi-room club and it's possible to walk around and find whatever fits your current mood and ener…

> Whilst I do like a lot of Infected Mushroom's stuff I've always seen them as the cheesy, commercial, "like it ironically" side of psy-trance.

You're going to have to trust me that as far as Israeli producers go, IM are neither cheesy nor commercial.

> I don't consider them truly representative of psy-trance, at least the eurocentric versions I listen to.

Ehhh, that's veering way too close to "metal genres" territory for me

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Having grown up with psytrance, I find that 25 years later the modern stuff just sounds like a cheap, low-effort pastiche of what psytrance used to be. And... I just became my Dad.

I stopped listening around the time of Infected Mushroom's Vicious Delicious . The genre seemed to jump the shark around that time. Looking back Goa Trance was the real trance and by 2000 it was already starting to go down the shitter.

Goa trance was a great genre in the 90s. After that it went downwards (with Filteria & Suntrip 2004 revival from death of the genre but on life support). It got completely overshadowed by this abomination called psytance which I don't like.

The specific album you mentioned, has two tracks I like (Heavyweight and Suliman) because I saw a fellow on YouTube using a guitar to 1:1 the riffs. It was that good that I donated to him. But otherwise I've never been much of a fan of IM. I find they're overrated.

When I think of goa trance I think of names like Astral Projection, Green Nuns Of The Revolution, Hallucinogen, Man With No Name, Miranda, Prana, Transwave and many of these dabbled into the psytrance genre. Some came back!

I'll mention some of my favourites: Hallucinogen live at DNA Lounge (2001?), Paul Oakenfold's Essential Mix ('Goa silver and gold mix', '94), any 90s live set by Astral Projection (there are many), and Imperial Project / Goa Syndrome (all of which were released on MP3.com). Also, any remix by MWNN and AP is gold.

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Happens probably to anyone loving a genre for an extended amount of time. Trance, Drum & Bass, Psytrance, you hear that sentiment everywhere.

I really wonder if this is 1) Nostalgia.Obviously, the first tracks you heard were your introduction to the genre, so they will have emotional value. 2) First-mover advantage, for the lack of a better word. Obviously you perceive every new track t_i in the context of t_{0..i-1} that you already know. Maybe track t_443, which sounds cheap and commercial now, would have sounded innovative if you heard it as t_33? 3) Ge…

Maybe, I don't think so.

The first time I heard goa trance it was in 90s, Astral Projection. It was too weird for me. I couldn't stand it!

Then in the early 00s I got introduced to psytrance. I started listening to it. Then I refound my love for goa trance (see my other post for examples) and I fell in love. It was an exciting time for me. I fell in love with two women, I used my first time MDMA and mushrooms later on, all of this while I learned to know this fantastic genre.

One could argue it was related to my first listening of AP. But I don't think I heard MWNN before, and I instantly loved it, and he has a very distinctive style. If you take Shakta, he's also made psytance, same with Miranda, MWNN, AP, etc etc but I don't like it.

Also, back in the 90s I listened to a lot of progressive trance as well (the usual names: Paul Oakenfold, Paul van Dyk, stuff mixed by Tiesto, Ferry Corsten, etc etc). How would you explain that?

Plus I like a lot more electronic music, mostly (but not solely) from 90s. I even like some psydub/psybient. But psytance? Nope. Well, barely.

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Having grown up with psytrance, I find that 25 years later the modern stuff just sounds like a cheap, low-effort pastiche of what psytrance used to be. And... I just became my Dad.

Fully agree, and hello from another dad here. There's no more stuff like Paps, Mumbo Jumbo, Double Dragon, Reefer Decree, Ticon, etc, and even the legendary Son Kite and Beat Bizzarre are not the same they've used to be in the heydays of the genre. I think the apogee was in the early 2000s, the early releases of Iboga Records. I've switched to the [dub] techno scene a few years ago, and it looks like there's much mor…

Dad #3 here, and I concur.

Though more progressive and tribal than the others, Antix's "Lull" album epitomized the early '00s sound for me.

Minilogue managed to keep the vibe alive a bit longer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgiL7lsIATA

Lastly, yes, the techno scene does scratch that itch for atmosphere and psychedelia. I've been to a few techno parties and was surprised by the striking similarities to that '00s sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87y49RmWJeg

Re: Psytrance Guide

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post #139

Interestingly this misses one psy genre of paramount importance - the PsyDub. Hallucinogen in Dub by Ott, and the Dub Trees project for example to name a few. There is a recent dubstep/psydub crossover which sounds very promising. Also I would add what is called mental techno in this list, even though it’s more on the acid side of things.

I came here for this comment! Always loved that psy dub sound (also OTT - Blumenkraft, and Nagual Sound Experiment's Invisible Movements) and particularly the hybrids that have come out of it recently. Most 'classic' psy trance stuff I find pretty boring to be honest. Globular has done some distinctly psy dub albums in the last few years. And then on the bass/dubstep side, I'm hearing psy influences in releases by Om…

Indeed, uncle Om is turning back to acid sounds (not so much psychedelic), but I totally agree that psydub is the logical progression for the psy* genres (don't kill me goa ppl, pls). to me the real progress in the psychedelic sounds is techno dub - a true psychedelic genre for the 21ct century. psytrance/progressive trance seem too 90s in composition and aesthetics to me.
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