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> "Now we can put the consumer first and create a level playing field for those businesses that advertise the real price, up front," I hope this means they're banning the common US practice of omitting sales taxes and tips from prices.
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This seems insane to me. Paying your employees a living wage is just another cost of producing the food, it should be part of the menu cost like everything else. Splitting it out is no more sensible that adding "building rent" or "ingredient cost" as extra line items on the final bill.
It is insane, and what's even more insane is that restaurants pulling this shit still have customers.
I don't quite see how an overdraft fee (one of the examples given) is a junk fee - it costs the bank real money to cover the loan they are effectively giving you when you are in overdraft.
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Don’t forget the “living wage surcharge” that many cities mandate for restaurant workers! It’s typically not disclosed until after you eat, and varies from city to city.
This seems insane to me. Paying your employees a living wage is just another cost of producing the food, it should be part of the menu cost like everything else. Splitting it out is no more sensible that adding "building rent" or "ingredient cost" as extra line items on the final bill.
the entire "making up shorted earnings via tips" is utter bullshit
edit: s/guest/customer/
I don't know why we can't just force everyone to show post tax/fees price upfront. It's complete bullshit that every restaurant bill comes with 3 different taxes.
But then how would Arizona Ice Tea be able to print "$1" on their can??? /s
I'm in Ireland, I'd say a good third of printed on labels are not even in the right currency, as companies have a single UK and Ireland SKU. It's also understood that generally it's the retailer that sets pricing, not the manfucturer, so when a book has $9.99/£8.99 printed on it and a store sticker with €12.99, nobody is confused that that's not the exchange rates, or about which price they'll pay.
I don't quite see how an overdraft fee (one of the examples given) is a junk fee - it costs the bank real money to cover the loan they are effectively giving you when you are in overdraft.
Cost the bank real money? lol What planet are you from? Banks don’t use their money.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
This seems insane to me. Paying your employees a living wage is just another cost of producing the food, it should be part of the menu cost like everything else. Splitting it out is no more sensible that adding "building rent" or "ingredient cost" as extra line items on the final bill.
It is insane, and what's even more insane is that restaurants pulling this shit still have customers.
Also related:
California AG and state senators introduce bill to ban hidden fees - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34870752 - Feb 2023 (377 comments)
Great. Now do something about housing prices.
Unfortunately Newsom is also doing some strange presidential run attempt where he's vetoed a bunch of popular bills everyone likes, including a new public housing program AB309.
I don't quite see how an overdraft fee (one of the examples given) is a junk fee - it costs the bank real money to cover the loan they are effectively giving you when you are in overdraft.
In the recent past, US banks were found to have specifically designed software to calculate how to best re-order customer transactions to maximise overdraft fees. Banks also generally make it hard/impossible to opt out of overdraft, something that would probably be preferable to many customers. Overdraft fees are a huge source of income these days.