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Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by KerrAvon »

astrange wrote: post #213
cglong wrote: post #188

So it goes... Warning: You are using macOS 11. We (and Apple) do not provide support for this old version. It is expected behaviour that some formulae will fail to build in this old version. It is expected behaviour that Homebrew will be buggy and slow. Do not create any issues about this on Homebrew's GitHub repositories. Do not create any issues even if you think this message is unrelated. Any opened issues will be…

Once again a good time to remember that there were multiple perfectly good package managers available when Homebrew was invented, they were more future-proof (by eg not putting files in /usr/local), and everyone only switched to it because for some reason Ruby programmers wanted all of their tools to be written in Ruby (and possibly by people with waxed mustaches.)

That is absolutely not true. The other available package managers would work 70% of the time on a good day. Homebrew is bulletproof on a current OS.

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Post by chatmasta »

webkike wrote: post #21

Please, for the love of god, add native window snapping.

By some miracle, the seven-year old version of Slate continues to work with each new macOS update. I'm dreading the day that breaks, although I'm also worried about security vulnerabilities that might exist in it already.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by pedalpete »

brandall10 wrote: post #251
pedalpete wrote: post #249

Does anyone else have no idea what macOS version is which? Which came first? Is there some hidden naming protocol that I just don't grasp? I've only started using a mac part-time while I've been developing an iOS app over the past few weeks, and I keep seeing different names for the OS version. I have no idea what version I'm on, or if Big Sur came before Sierra, or what. I know I could look it up, but it seems that…

It says the in the "About This Mac" Apple menu item. In this case, it will be Sonoma 14.0. Historically versioning is weird due to the integration of NextSTEP after Job's return to the company. First it was versioned up to 9, then the NextSTEP integration was 10, then subsequent major releases were minor bumps (ie 10.1, 10.2) as OSX was a brand unto itself until 11 which rebranded to MacOS and full versions were used…

I went to the wikipedia page, which is kinda the point. No other OS requires you too look it up. Even WatchOS and iOS directly use version numbers.

Saying it's due to NextStep integration sounds like a strange defense of this naming strategy (if that was your intention). They have version numbers, but they decide to use the "code name" as a product name.

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Post by KerrAvon »

esafak wrote: post #222
joeman1000 wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Time to move to MacPorts.

Don't move today, because the Sonoma release is not out yet. https://www.macports.org/install.php

I remember this being a huge issue with MacPorts. It would never keep up with the damn releases, so if you were working on a beta OS, you were hosed until they caught up.

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Post by miniBill »

bshacklett wrote: post #240
n8henrie wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://nixos.org/download.html#nix-install-macos The homebrew team seems incredibly burnt-out, to the point of hostility. I've really enjoyed the nixpkgs community so far and encourage others to check it out; it hasn't replaced homebrew entirely for me (yet), but it's getting closer every day.

My issue with Nix is that you are forced to install packages in a global location. Why is it that every package manager assumes I’m an administrator on my machine? Even if I am, how does it make sense to take over a global directory as a single user?

Nix does not require you to be an administrator to install a package though!

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Post by rconti »

pedalpete wrote: post #249

Does anyone else have no idea what macOS version is which? Which came first? Is there some hidden naming protocol that I just don't grasp? I've only started using a mac part-time while I've been developing an iOS app over the past few weeks, and I keep seeing different names for the OS version. I have no idea what version I'm on, or if Big Sur came before Sierra, or what. I know I could look it up, but it seems that…

No, I also have no clue, but it's no more annoying than keeping track of which Ubuntu version is called something inane like Jaunty Jackalope.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by webkike »

CharlesW wrote: post #112
Insanity wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is not remotely as powerful as actual window snapping and feels more like what a tablet OS would need rather than a desktop OS.

> That is not remotely as powerful as actual window snapping… I assume because that type of advanced window management is a poor default for a mainstream audience. Happily, there are great options for this. My preference right now is Raycast's Window Management extension. https://www.raycast.com/extensions/window-management

Windows has supported window snapping for years. It has been the mainstream default for years

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Post by shepherdjerred »

karmakaze wrote: post #195
mfiguiere wrote: post #89

Complete list of new features in macOS Sonoma: https://www.apple.com/macos/sonoma/pdf/macOS_All_New_Feature...

The number of 'system' features for an OS update is small. The most interesting one to me is the AirPods variable noise cancellation which is more along the lines of hardware accessory support. There's something not quite right when an OS update mainly updates web browser, apps, widgets, etc. Is there another set of notes that has all the underlying API changes supported that 3rd parties can use?

I've been using this for a few days and it is _fantastic_! AirPods have to be the biggest thing I'd miss if I ever left the Apple ecosystem

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by josu »

>Reminders: Intelligent grocery lists in Reminders streamline weekly trips to the store by organizing lists into sections and arranging them horizontally using a new column view.

Not much left to improve, I guess.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Post by shepherdjerred »

zitterbewegung wrote: post #2

I’ve been on the release candidates and the OS is very stable and I haven’t found any major breakages or random crashes . Also, homebrew has been working great and lots of other open source software S

There were a lot of problems early on, but it quickly became stable for me
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