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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by dcow »

vdfs wrote: post #182
joshstrange wrote: post #166

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> I suspect they do care about communicating with customers, but it's total chaos and carnage internally. This is my best guess as well, they are rocketing down the interstate at 200mph and just trying to keep the wheels on the car. When you're absolutely killing it I guess making X% more by being better at messaging just isn't worth it since to do that you'd have to take someone off something potentially more critic…

> When you're absolutely killing it Aren't they unprofitable? and have fierce competition from everyone?

Whether or not you’re profitable has very little to do with how valuable others think you are. And usually having competitors is something that validates your market.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by blibble »

Closi wrote: post #225
blibble wrote: post #200

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both of those are either estimated or anonymous sources not credible

Well they are a private company so you are going to have to evaluate it on that basis, but reuters is generally considered credible.

> Well they are a private company so you are going to have to evaluate it on that basis, but reuters is generally considered credible.

well that would be good if Reuters were the source of the figure

but they're not, they're simply reporting on what SimilarWeb has estimated

https://www.similarweb.com/website/chatgpt.com/#technologies

and that estimate is essentially based on nothing

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by cmiles74 »

huijzer wrote: post #186
bamboozled wrote: post #110

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> What LLMs have made me realize more than anything is that we just don't care that much the information we receive being completely factual. I find this highly concerning but I feel similar. Even "smart people" I work with seem to have gulped down the LLM cool aid because it's convenient and it's "cool". Sometimes I honestly think: "just surrender to it all, believe in all the machine tells you unquestionably, forge…

> just surrender to it all, believe in all the machine tells you unquestionably, forget the fact checking, it feels good to be ignorant... it will be fine... It's the same issue with Google Search, any web page, or, heck, any book. Fact checking gets you only so far. You need critical thinking. It's okay to "learn" wrong facts from time to time as long as you are willing to be critical and throw the ideas away if the…

There's a lot of truth in this comment and a lot that I wholeheartedly agree with.

When I spend time on something that turns out to be incorrect, I would prefer it to be because of choice I made instead of some random choice made by an LLM. Maybe the author is someone I'm interested in, maybe there's value in understanding other sides of the issue, etc. When I learn something erroneous from an LLM, all I know is that the LLM told me.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by dcow »

jprete wrote: post #214
joshstrange wrote: post #166

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> I suspect they do care about communicating with customers, but it's total chaos and carnage internally. This is my best guess as well, they are rocketing down the interstate at 200mph and just trying to keep the wheels on the car. When you're absolutely killing it I guess making X% more by being better at messaging just isn't worth it since to do that you'd have to take someone off something potentially more critic…

When dealing with a tech where people have credible reasons to believe it can be enormously harmful on every possible time scale, maybe it would behoove them to not rocket down the interstate at 200mph?

Thats not what the analogy means. 200mph refers to funding.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by olalonde »

joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

> My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing"

Agreed. Other notable mentions: choosing "ChatGPT" as their product name and not having mobile apps.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by jjoonathan »

adroniser wrote: post #251
thfuran wrote: post #210

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Unless you think that consciousness is entirely a post hoc process to rationalize thoughts already had and decisions already made, which is very much unlike how most people would describe their experience of it, I don't see how you could possibly say that it is irrelevant to the behavior of a human.

I'm saying someone would behave the exact same way if they did have subjective experience versus if they didn't have a subjective experience. The brain obeys physical laws just like everything else and I claim that all you need is those physical laws to explain everything a human does. I could be wrong there could be some magic fairy dust inside the human brain that performs some impossible computations but I doubt i…

You need a model of yourself to game out future scenarios, and that model or model+game is probably consciousness or very closely related.

Sure, it's not completely in control but if it's just a rationalization then it begs the question: why bother? Is it accidental? If it's just an accident, then what replaces it in the planning process and why isn't that thing consciousness?

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by itsoktocry »

LeonM wrote: post #198
jimbokun wrote: post #188

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> fastest growing start-up in history. What are some metrics that justify this claim?

They have been the fastest company ever to go from 0 to 100 million users. [0] They are also on pace to exceed $1B in revenue. [1] [0] https://www.reuters.com/technology/chatgpt-sets-record-faste... [1] https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-passes-1-bill...

Are either of those things indicative of "fastest growth ever"? Maybe 100 million users, but we live in a world where it's hard to know how meaningful that is (ie Tucker's X videos getting 300 million views).

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

joshstrange wrote: post #135

My biggest complaint with OpenAI/ChatGPT is their horrible "marketing" (for lack of a better term). They announce stuff like this (or like plugins), I get excited, I go to use it, it hasn't rolled out to me yet (which is frustrating as a paying customer), and my only recourse is.... check back daily? They never send an email "Plugins are available for you!", "Voice chat is now enabled on your account!" and so often I…

Maybe they need an RSS feed or something
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