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Re: Organic Maps

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Post by ericfr11 »

rob74 wrote: post #196
ex-googlemaps wrote: post #180

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There are significantly more people using the other modes, especially in active navigation. For example, it’s well known that Google detects traffic through the movement of active users (there was the wagon of phones traffic jam experiment). Imagine trying to do something similar with the amount of cyclists actively using Google with the necessary privacy settings enabled on any given route. It would be noisy but pos…

This sounds a bit American to me honestly - I would think that in Europe (and especially in Amsterdam) there would be enough cyclists to make the data usable. OTOH, they may not have the necessary privacy settings enabled (I think that's a minority among car users too). Of course it's also a vicious circle: if Google Maps is bad for cyclists, few cyclists will be using it, so you won't get the data you need to make i…

The ex-Googler is most likely talking about the product as a whole, across the globe. It would be hard to justify features dedicated to a small group of users overall (with different goals/expectations), especially while keeping privacy (and data sharing). That being said, Google maps works great for cyclists in the US ...

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by aembleton »

cvak wrote: post #207
aembleton wrote: post #155

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Worth trying out mapy.cz app for cycling. It uses OSM data; and I find it works well in the UK, I've never tried it in the Netherlands though. It has good route finding, but unfortunatelly you can't load in a GPX route: https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?mobilepromo=1&x=15.6252330&y=49....

there is import GPX feature when you sign in, I use it quite often.

Ah thanks; you can load them through the website and sync from the app.

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by ericfr11 »

bertil wrote: post #40

I genuinely want to know what lead Google to not support Maps offline properly. It’s truly staggering how, even when I do everything I can to say: save this journey, don’t delete the map around it, don’t delete the journey, just passively show me where I am next to it, it will gleefully delete everything. I once met their lead designer (who had just changed to work at another FAANG) and… boy was that not a conversati…

I would have to agree with the designer's I find it easy to download a map. I've done it in every single country I went to. But I have seen family members struggling because they didn't want to take the time to know how to do it (it could be a bad design but also laziness of users...)

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by evantbyrne »

The critical issue I've always had with OSM-based map apps has been stale data. If I were to update something on OSM, then how long could I reasonably expect it to take for that change to make it onto my phone with Organic Maps? And would it happen automatically in the background while I'm on WiFi, or would I have to do something manually?

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by aembleton »

orbital-decay wrote: post #208
Vinnl wrote: post #192

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If you both don't know about StreetComplete yet, you should check it out: https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/#readme

Yeah I'm often using StreetComplete when walking in a city, but on a bike any operation with the phone involves stopping and switching the context. Besides, SC is intended to fill the missing or fix existing data, and sometimes I need more than that (adding/fixing paths and objects, for example). So I just record an audio note while passing by something, and later on I import the video/timelapse and edit it on my com…

Worth looking at SCEE [1] for adding objects, unfortunatelly it doesn't do paths.

[1] https://f-droid.org/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplete.e...

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by aembleton »

ijustlovemath wrote: post #215
gorbypark wrote: post #205

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The elevation profile is great, for sure, but I meant more like...difficulty, rather than grade? I don't know the exact word to use, but sometimes you have well used, well marked trails and other times you have a "trail" that maybe gets used a few times a year and is more like a choose your own adventure with a rock cairn or two every couple hundred meters if you are lucky.

Ah, I see! I'm not sure if OSM data can have that information, but it would be great! Some kind of bushwhack out of 10 rating?

OSM does have that data, and I've noticed that mapy.cz takes it into account. There are sac_scale [1] and smoothness keys [2]

1. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale

2. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by 2143 »

Great app, I like it, but I did notice some problems:

My city is comprised of several islands, and there's relatively large bodies of water between them (over 100 metres), but this map shows those large water bodies as narrow (1 or 2 metre) river-like things.

I understand this might be the problem of the underlying data source, and not the app itself.

(For what it's worth, both Google and Apple maps correctly displays the islands and water bodies).

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by acec »

gniv wrote: post #251
acec wrote: post #35

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No not trust it google maps either. There is a crossroads that is wrong in Google near my house and it is right in OSM. In fact... I did fix it but I will not report about the error to Google ;-)

> I did fix it but I will not report about the error to Google Why not? That seems like a weird stance. Is your desire to hurt Google so strong that you are not willing to help potentially thousands of people?

I am not a Google employee. Why should I work to fix their product? I prefer to help potentially thousands of people by helping a non-profit like openstreemaps

Re: Organic Maps

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Post by orblivion »

2143 wrote: post #268

Great app, I like it, but I did notice some problems: My city is comprised of several islands, and there's relatively large bodies of water between them (over 100 metres), but this map shows those large water bodies as narrow (1 or 2 metre) river-like things. I understand this might be the problem of the underlying data source, and not the app itself. (For what it's worth, both Google and Apple maps correctly display…

Check if it looks the same on openstreetmap.org
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