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Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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It ultimately depends on what the student is doing I think. If you are just writing papers, doing research, taking notes. Just use an iPad. Maybe get a keyboard to attache to it. Obviously if you are going for programming thats an exception but thats not everyone. Most people that I know do the vast majority of their computing tasks on their phones. I think it's very telling that apps like Threads launched first as a…

> I think it's very telling that apps like Threads launched first as an app and the website came later. This isn't new, Instagram itself did the same over a decade ago. It was phone-only until shortly after Facebook bought it. But I agree with your other point, PCs (mostly laptops if you want to make that distinction) are for business use, while phones and iPads (because other tablets suck) are general purpose device…

Instagram was one step further, iPhone-only.

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Why not Linux (depending on your line of work). Wider hardware choice, easier to upgrade, and no corporate oversight. Doesn't cover all use cases but it's a good option these days.

Linux is ok nowadays, but why? The Mac hardware is already better, and Apple isn't too annoying. You'll have more random nonsense to deal with on Linux, some of it not their fault.

> Apple isn't too annoying

I find Apple to be too annoying for my tastes. Less annoying than Microsoft, but that doesn't mean much.

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FWIW, I find current gen (starting with 8th) HP EliteBooks decent enough. They work perfectly in Linux (actually better than Windows, since for a while some bits weren't recognized...). They're quiet unless I'm compiling something (if I don't use Windows, which for some reasons gets the fan spinning even when it's supposed to be asleep). The trackpad is good, even though it's worse than my 2013 MBP's. The main issue…

Just to add a data point, the HP ElitBooks have been my replacement for ThinkPads. I find the to be a good replacement. I've been running Redhat on an HP elitebook 840 g6, which Ive had for about a year now, and I've been very happy with it. The trackpad is mostly good, not great, but I'm more of a nub guy and that works perfectly.

> I'm more of a nub guy and that works perfectly

I'd never had a PC with a trackpoint before the hp, but I can't get used to it. How do you configure it? I find it's either uncontrollably quick, or slow as molasses. I like the idea of being able to drive it without moving my hand to the trackpad.

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I want so badly be a big fan of WSL, but I just can't, I'm hitting too many issues for it to be productive and I had to jump back into a proper Linux environment... > But they make it really hard to rely on. From random shutdowns, GPU unreliability to data corruption and performance differences with just using Linux directly, I had to move away from it and back to Linux because I felt like I slowly losing my mind tro…

It really is a shame. I've wanted to build a gaming pc for years now, but the dev experience is compromised on windows, and the gaming experience is compromised on linux. People on windows will tell me to 'just use WSL', and people on linux will tell me to 'just use proton'. Both are decent, neither are great. I currently have a linux laptop, and a ps5 and both excel at their respective roles

Good ol' dual-booting still works, and I'm currently using it to switch between Windows, Arch Linux and NixOS.

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I'm a big fan of WSL, which has kept me on Windows for years more than I otherwise would have. But I can't stand the scammy adware infused OS Windows has become and will be moving to Apple Silicon full-time when the next gen M3 Desktop hardware is out. As a recent M2 Macbook Air owner I'm surprised how much software supports ARM/Apple Silicon natively, where everything I use daily as a .NET developer worked OOB [1].…

I want so badly be a big fan of WSL, but I just can't, I'm hitting too many issues for it to be productive and I had to jump back into a proper Linux environment... > But they make it really hard to rely on. From random shutdowns, GPU unreliability to data corruption and performance differences with just using Linux directly, I had to move away from it and back to Linux because I felt like I slowly losing my mind tro…

> I want so badly be a big fan of WSL, but I just can't

I'm the same. I use WSL daily at work, but it's more of a "better than nothing" sort of thing for me. Every time I use it, I wish I had a real Linux system instead.

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If a business cannot exist without polluting the commons, should it really exist?

A customer base doesn’t spring from the aether.

That doesn't imply it should be manufactured out of false need though. Companies have proven too irresponsible to let the industry continue.

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I want everyone here to completely get over the fantasy fairytale idea that Microsoft can be moved on this by typical "consumer feedback" types of responses. We've been here too long, and we know what Microsoft is and what they do. Switch operating systems, or push for EXTERNAL changes in law and policy. The other stuff is futile .

My way of dealing with this is simple, I just don't care. If I were forced to use Windows at work, it'd be annoying, I might curse a few times, but I'd still get my work done at the end of the day.

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> I got a Windows Notification the other day while playing a game telling me about a "Grand prize giveaway" > Nope, not malware. Just Windows. Yeah, I got one the other day promoting some game or game studio. Honestly, there outta be a law. We don't need this kind of "innovation."

The easiest way is to stop using Windows. Either Microsoft sees decrease in users and rolls back ads; or its keeps pushing on and makes things even worse. Either way, you no longer see the ads.

> The easiest way is to stop using Windows

That's awfully hard to do when my employer requires that I use Windows.

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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That's odd, I just tried mine and it controls VLC just fine.

Mine plays whatever was playing last, including youtube in Chrome. Brutal! Now I just click on the play icon in the top menu instead - that shows a list of all play button targets and you can pick which one should play.

Mine usually works great, controlling whatever program or video I'm watching, but 10% of the time it just decides to go control a completely different AV program in the background, for no discernible reason.

I don't have that issue with play buttons on Windows. Never tried media keys on linux.

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