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New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting
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Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting
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I’m shopping for anything EV other than a Tesla now. There are many options now, but Tesla is still way ahead with the power train. Most competitors aren’t at the same place on range & performance yet. It’s an amazing power train glued inside a 90s-era Oldsmobile.
Mercedes EQ ?
Beautiful car and great competition against the Model S. I've been ogling one at the dealership I bike past regularly.
Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting
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> They make solid cars, everyone that owns one knows that. Data seems to disagree with this statement [0] Tesla is also notorious for glaring QC issues, like missing bits and obvious panel gaps. [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/edgarsten/2023/02/09/tesla-tank...
If Tesla cars were such POS, they wouldnt be growing 50% Q/o/Q. They have the most popular selling cars in multiple countries (Model Y). The news picks up on the .0001% of problems and those customers are always the loudest (understandably). For ever cracked front casking, there are tens of thousands of solid castings. Austin alone makes 5K Ys per week. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-giga-texas-5000-unit-weekly-...…
The article references a study by J.D. Power, which runs every year or so. Hardly newsworthy.
> If Tesla cars were such POS, they wouldnt be growing 50% Q/o/Q. They have the most popular selling cars in multiple countries (Model Y).
What kind of argument is this? Shake Shack is one of the fastest growing fast food chains, yet they sell crappy, unhealthy food. Xiaomi arguably makes phones that aren't as good as Samsung or Apple, yet they are the fastest growing manufacturer.
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I had a few very smart friends who were very successful in business at a young age. They all sort of celebrated having made it by buying high-end Audi’s when they were the hot luxury cars in the mid-2000’s. The cars weren’t very reliable (even dumb shit like the electric windows would break) and the repairs were notably more expensive than they should have been. One of them explained that he finally understood that s…
> it had the same bells and whistles anyway Electric windows, sure.
I mean, I didn't own the car so I have no idea what "options" a luxury car could have over a standard car with all the extra options included, but he sure seemed to think that the Prius had exactly the same things he enjoyed in the Audi.
Note, we were in Austin where something like leather seats would be a bad idea.
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#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had a few very smart friends who were very successful in business at a young age. They all sort of celebrated having made it by buying high-end Audi’s when they were the hot luxury cars in the mid-2000’s. The cars weren’t very reliable (even dumb shit like the electric windows would break) and the repairs were notably more expensive than they should have been. One of them explained that he finally understood that s…
> it had the same bells and whistles anyway Electric windows, sure.
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> what legal recourse would an individual consumer have to have this fixed? A lawsuit. That is what the legal system is for. But for some reason people seem to look down on this which I find baffling.
When you buy a Tesla, you agree to arbitrate all disputes with Tesla. Including Lemon Law claims.
They can write whatever they like; state law dictates how it actually proceeds.
In my state, you must start with arbitration but you have zero obligation to accept that decision and can sue regardless of outcome.
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OK, but you get what parent post is saying. This particular example might have a technical answer but the overall point is that emails tend to lack context and are composed for brevity / convenience. "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." - Cardinal Richelieu
it sounded like the overall point was that, by avoiding retained communications, they could get away with something they otherwise would not be able to get away with, and should not be able to get away with (patenting something obvious) what sort of context could be added which exonerates that behavior? if the context exonerates it, why not have a policy of including context? if it's somehow benign, but cited out of…
It's a hell of a lot easier to not have to defend a statement made out of context than it is to do so. It's the same reason you should never, ever, under any circumstances answer any questions about anything at all coming from the police without your lawyer. Even if you are completely innocent, your words can be presented in such a manner as to call into question your honesty, at which point your rebuttal will be shrouded by distrust.
The quintessential example is an alibi. If the cops accuse me of shooting someone in SF, but I was in Berkeley at the time, I might be tempted to tell them that. But then, when they produce a faulty eye-witness, who says they saw me in SF that evening, suddenly I need to discredit that witness in order to resolve my alibi. Meanwhile, if I hadn't said anything, the witness's claim that I happened to be in the same city on the same day as the murder is nowhere near enough evidence to cause me any problems.
Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting
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> I own two Teslas and their service is horrible. Genuinely curious; why did you buy the second one? I might possibly be slightly over-vindictive with brands, but once a brand fails me I’m very reluctant to buy something else from them (a Samsung TV with some silly quality control and firmware issues was enough to make me swear off Samsung, and the Nexus 7 (original one; the one that tended to degrade after about a y…
I’m shopping for anything EV other than a Tesla now. There are many options now, but Tesla is still way ahead with the power train. Most competitors aren’t at the same place on range & performance yet. It’s an amazing power train glued inside a 90s-era Oldsmobile.
I'm a big fan of my Chevy Bolt. ~250 miles range is plenty for commuting and making day trips to friends and whatnot. Any further than that and I'd want to fly, anyway.
Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting
#269Manufacturing aluminum castings at scale efficiently (without using excessive amounts of metal) is a difficult problem to solve. This kind of stuff has plagued other car manufacturers too and with much smaller components. For example aluminum Ice engine heads and blocks. Certain vehicle years (for example 2005 Golf tdi) are known for "porous" and cracking castings. There is a very good reason (other than "they" want…
This company is supposedly sophisticated enough to develop AI technology capable of driving their cars.
Surely they can point some of those cameras at the gigapress output with their AI magic rejecting any parts letting light through where none is expected.
Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting
#270This is a slam-dunk for the typical American lemon law. The owner of the car should go out and find a lemon law lawyer. When I had to work with one I didn't have to pay a thing. (I had a Subaru where the GPS / Stereo would reboot while I drove and loose its settings. After a bunch of replacements, the car still had the problem. I had to catch it on video, though. Subaru ended up declaring the car a lemon after trying…
> I own two Teslas and their service is horrible. Genuinely curious; why did you buy the second one? I might possibly be slightly over-vindictive with brands, but once a brand fails me I’m very reluctant to buy something else from them (a Samsung TV with some silly quality control and firmware issues was enough to make me swear off Samsung, and the Nexus 7 (original one; the one that tended to degrade after about a y…
Because I needed a 3-row vehicle, I refuse to buy anything that runs on gasoline, and the Supercharger network is the only viable high speed charging network in the US.