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Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by RunSet »

dark-star wrote: post #49
tohnjitor wrote: post #20

NewPipe is excellent. I was disappointed that it was not available for desktop until I discovered tartube which will download video files from almost any website easily

JDownloader, youtube-dl, yt-dlp and many others can also download YouTube videos (and hundreds of other sites). Yes, the last two are command line tools, but if you put them on your desktop you can just drag&drop any YouTube-link on them and it will download it for you

Stacher is a decent frontend for yt-dlp for the command-line averse.

https://stacher.io/

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by MichaelDickens »

Gareth321 wrote: post #182
Zuiii wrote: post #96

I have a set of test questions I use to gauge how badly a LLM model has been lobotomized whenever a new one is released. This post made me finally realize that google search is really going away (compromise core mission due to invalid DMCA request? really??) and that I will have to start looking for new search engines. This of course means that I need a way to gauge prospective search engines. My first attempt: - Sea…

> Search for far-right content if search engine is US-based (suggestions please) I use a similar litmus test. I search for the website for the Proud Boys. Google doesn't just censor it. They place obviously hand-curated results critical of the movement on the first page. Bing is the same. DuckDuckGo also fails the test. Kagi and Yandex both pass this test. Google fails almost every one of these tests.

Wow, I didn't realize even DDG was censoring this hard. I tried what you suggested and the results between DDG and Yandex aren't even close. This comment convinced me to switch to Yandex.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by robertlagrant »

skydhash wrote: post #243
robertlagrant wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is a category error. Those bad things aren't driven by ads. Ads drive economies of scale possible if people have heard of your product without word of mouth, which lower prices and help producers understand what people want. Productiveness will sometimes drive things like microplastics, as it's hard to know the effects of doing something new without doing that thing. That's the theoretical response. In p…

> That's the theoretical response. In practice: how would I sell my car without ads? You make an announcement that you have a car to sell. Maybe provide some details. I don't think people mind announcement. They mind the intrusion and manipulation. So, I don't mind seeing in the paper that someone has a car to sell. But I absolutely hate when I'm forced to watch that you have the most beautiful car when I'm just load…

What you call an announcement with details about something you're selling?

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by RunSet »

IX-103 wrote: post #224
can16358p wrote: post #58

We need a decentralized, uncensorable search engine. Imagine everything that big players want to censor, being available to everyone.

So child porn and snuff films for everyone? No thanks.

The "I'm feeling lucky" button gets replaced with one reading "Feel lucky, punk?"

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by vasco »

542354234235 wrote: post #254
vasco wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did I make any argument about who had a bigger role? I just made an argument that because of the US's role, and the fact that right now they have the biggest army, that's what allows them to have this influence in laws in europe. Other people started making comparisons with USSR.

>also the only reason most of europe has freedom today and not a german dictatorship is the US in WW2 German soldiers killed on the Eastern Front before the final battles of 1945: 2,742,909. On the Western Front, the Balkans, Africa, Italy, and Northern Europe: 640,541. I'm no mathematician, but but it seems like it wouldn't have been possible without Russians killing over 75% of the German soldiers and then marching…

Lets say I rephrase to:

>also one of the reasons most of europe has freedom today and not a german dictatorship is the US in WW2

How does that invalidate my argument? What is your alternative explanation for why the US has outsized impact on laws in europe today?

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by palata »

Glawen wrote: post #202
anakaine wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They need not be proficient to understand that Swiss German is distinctly different from German. Its reasonably common knowledge. Swiss German is based around Alemannic dialects rendering it often and frequently unintelligible to traditional German speakers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_German

It is a dialect, written form is German. It is like hearing French spoken in sub Saharan Africa, it is hard to grasp but eventually you get it

> it is hard to grasp but eventually you get it

If by "eventually you get it" you mean "after putting enough effort into learning it", then yes. But that's the same for every language.

If you mean "you need a few hours to get used to it and then you understand almost everything", then... well... not at all.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by robertlagrant »

t0bia_s wrote: post #226
robertlagrant wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is a category error. Those bad things aren't driven by ads. Ads drive economies of scale possible if people have heard of your product without word of mouth, which lower prices and help producers understand what people want. Productiveness will sometimes drive things like microplastics, as it's hard to know the effects of doing something new without doing that thing. That's the theoretical response. In p…

I should specify "corporate product advertisement". Also... You advert a selling of product that is already made and used. I tough about those silly ads for new kind of electronics, cars, junk food, etc. Btw, why are you selling your car? - ...help producers understand what people want. You always need what you don't have and others do. Do you?

> Also... You advert a selling of product that is already made and used.

So no one should know about new products for sale, only second hand ones?

> You always need what you don't have and others do. Do you?

I'm selling it because it doesn't have 7 seats for when we have overseas relatives who can't afford to rent a car when they visit, and its diesel engine is not necessary for my much-reduced weekly mileage. Assuming I want just because others have is extremely shallow.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by calcifer »

vasco wrote: post #228
calcifer wrote: post #219

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> but then what is your explanation? Decades of Holywood propaganda and related American cultural exports. There is a reason the Pentagon gives free access to military equipment to Holywood studios, but only if the military is depicted positively / in a heroic manner.

You think Europe lets the US dictate policy and enforce extradition because of... Hollywood? And not because of the position the US has on the world stage by having the biggest army and the world currency? Because that's the argument I'm making.

You keep moving goalposts. Your original statement which started this comment chain was that without the US, Europe would be a German dictatorship. That is categorically untrue and is not actually believed by those who survived WW2. I also explained why the perception is changed, even though the facts haven't. From there, you've launched into some unrelated tirade about American military size.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by MichaelDickens »

IX-103 wrote: post #224
can16358p wrote: post #58

We need a decentralized, uncensorable search engine. Imagine everything that big players want to censor, being available to everyone.

So child porn and snuff films for everyone? No thanks.

Presumably, any search engine that works passably well will not show you snuff films if you type in a search for something entirely different. The only people who see snuff films will be the ones looking for them.

Child porn shouldn't be on the internet because it is illegal, and if it's not on the internet, it won't come up in search. If it does come up in search, that makes it all the easier to report to the police.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by calcifer »

bavell wrote: post #239
calcifer wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the only reason most of europe has freedom today and not a german dictatorship is the US in WW2 That thought is the result of decades of successful US propaganda. The people who actually lived through WW2 in Europe thought different. This poll [1] asked: "In your opinion, which nation contributed the most to Hitler's defeat?" [1] https://www.les-crises.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/sondage...

How many people were asked in each poll and were they all French? Genuinely curious.

Yes, they were all French. 995 people aged 18 and over. The study is here [1].

[1] https://www.ifop.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/3025-1-study...

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