Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo • Hacker News Board

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by soligern » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:19 AM UTC

zmmmmm wrote: post #128

If you care about this stuff, please at least give the fediverse a try. Yes it's inadequate right now in all kinds of ways. But the main reason is that not enough people are there. It needs critical mass. Pick whatever you want - kbin, lemmy, mastodon. Go there, find your community (it will probably look very sad compared to Reddit). And contribute something positive - comment, post, whatever. If everybody just did t…

No, that stuff is nonsensical. I don’t want to browse servers and keep a list etc. The federated stuff will never take off and in a way I hope it doesn’t, all that content locked away on personal servers that can go away at a whim.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by ikt » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:23 AM UTC

fakedang wrote: post #210

bentcorner wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Why is this 16-year-old talking about divorce lawyers on r/relationship_advice?" The opposite has occurred and it wasn't very pretty to look at.

Huh? Divorce lawyers talking on r/teenagers about relationship advice?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/djdmd9/we_banned_all...

/r/drama banned people who posted in /r/teenagers and brought to surface a whole bundle of pedos

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by rjbwork » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:23 AM UTC

extr wrote: post #42

I remember signing up for Reddit as a college freshman. I was a digg user and joined Reddit in the aftermath of that fiasco. I sometimes laugh looking over my post history for the past decade plus. If you read the posts linearly, you can trace my evolution from a kid arguing passionately over politics and culture (things he didn't really know much about), to a more mature young adult who rarely waded into discussions…

I joined my senior year of HS. My original account is 17 years old this year. I'll probably just continue to use old.reddit.com for a few niche time wasters on desktop, but the decline in quality is already apparent.

It's a damn fucking shame.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by mvdtnz » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:26 AM UTC

zmmmmm wrote: post #128

If you care about this stuff, please at least give the fediverse a try. Yes it's inadequate right now in all kinds of ways. But the main reason is that not enough people are there. It needs critical mass. Pick whatever you want - kbin, lemmy, mastodon. Go there, find your community (it will probably look very sad compared to Reddit). And contribute something positive - comment, post, whatever. If everybody just did t…

I'm not even slightly interested in the "fediverse". My impression is that most of the people involved are more interested in the ideology of decentralisation and the technology than they are about community building. I don't care even slightly about decentralisation. The focus is to the clear detriment of the product itself.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by mvdtnz » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:27 AM UTC

data-ottawa wrote: post #198

ativzzz wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the thing - what I like about reddit is that every single community is right there. I don't need to figure out a new complex system. It's a megaforum with every single subniche you can think of, without having to go to any other site or any other server I want a centralized megaforum. I don't care about federation or what technology it uses. I just want easy access to everything

For what it's worth, Lemmy and kbin are very much the v1 of the fediverse, the UIs and servers are improving quickly as they break (just like how reddit was notoriously down all the time years ago). After you sign up you don't have to care much about servers or instances, just tap "all". I don't think it will be long before someone comes into this space with a good UI and the community that reddit just marooned and t…

You're not exactly selling it.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by pierat » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:31 AM UTC

klardotsh wrote: post #183

GoofballJones wrote: post #114

So many sites and companies have turned on the users that put them on the map. Twitter, Red Hat, Reddit. It's like they're saying "we don't need the users anymore."

They're all panicking for money. Modern capitalism demands not just stable businesses, not just profit, but quarterly increasing profits for all of eternity . This is obviously-to-anyone-who-isn't-a-grifter impossible and company after company will die being forced to chase it.

hn sez 30x plz?

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by fakedang » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:32 AM UTC

ikt wrote: post #262

fakedang wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? Divorce lawyers talking on r/teenagers about relationship advice?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/djdmd9/we_banned_all... /r/drama banned people who posted in /r/teenagers and brought to surface a whole bundle of pedos

Talk about dark patterns. Reddit has disabled scrolling down on mobile devices. Well that ends my reddit usage.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by pierat » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:33 AM UTC

auxym wrote: post #126

lousken wrote: post #11

So where is everybody going after reddit?

Trying kbin and lemmy. Both are compatible with each other through activitypub federation (aka fediverse), so choose an instance of either and browse away. It's still very quiet compared to what reddit was. Not yet enough users to support the niche communities which made reddit special (IMO), but I'm trying to contribute anyways, hopefully building it up a bit. Losing reddit is sad, the feeling to me is a bit similar…

"Suprnova", but definitely point taken!

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by pierat » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:37 AM UTC

kypro wrote: post #156

> the death of Apollo also goes the metaphorical death of all the best parts (IMO) of the internet: open-source, creativity, entrepreneurial spirit. It died years ago for me. I don't want go get too nostalgic, but it depresses how amazing the early internet was compared to what it is today. The early years of web 2.0 (2002 - 2007ish) were the golden age imo. Then Facebook and the smart phone came along... From that p…

I mean, you cant just have Pepsi being advertised in a r/wtf deadly bus crash with people wearing coca cola, now can you?

I mean, think of the chil... advertisers!

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by rococode » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:42 AM UTC

tspike wrote: post #9

RIP Bacon Reader. Reddit, you’ve burned so much goodwill. I’ve been an enthusiastic user for over 14 years. Now I’m planning to delete my content. At one point recently, I got excited about applying for an engineering leadership position with you, but this debacle has made me realize your senior leadership is not who I want to be reporting to.

What I'll miss most from BaconReader is the Android widgets, which as far as I can tell, are not available through either the official app or anything else.

It was super convenient to be able to display a sub or /r/all on my phone's home pages, and I used it every day to keep up with current events or my favorite hobbies without needing to open any apps. For many years that's been a core part of how I use my phone, and I will sorely miss it :(

If Reddit someday added something as nice as BaconReader's widgets to their app I might give it a shot. But looking at the design they used for their iOS app, which apparently does have a widget, I don't have high hopes for it (https://old.reddit.com/r/changelog/comments/kdycmj/introduci...).

Other than that, no plans to use Reddit on mobile anymore. One less bad habit, I guess.