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Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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Dishes marketed under the Pyrex name are no longer borosilicates. They're still glass (tempered soda–lime glass), which is what the OP was talking about, so you're just being needlessly pedantic without adding anything to the discussion. Also, Pyrex is still borosilicate in Europe, since soda-lime is hard to get there.

Soda lime glass isn't hard to get, it's the "default" glass used around the world for everything from drinking glasses to window panes. If you buy a can of sauce or bottle of wine, that's almost certainly soda lime glass. In Europe, Pyrex still uses borosilicate glass because it's better and because Europeans are more discerning consumers than Americans. That's my theory anyway. American pyrex cheaped out by switchin…

In Europe, Pyrex still uses borosilicate glass because it's better and because Europeans are more discerning consumers than Americans

Wikipedia disagrees with you:

"Since the closure of the soda–lime plant in England in 2007, European Pyrex has been made solely from borosilicate."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrex

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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Dishes marketed under the Pyrex name are no longer borosilicates. They're still glass (tempered soda–lime glass), which is what the OP was talking about, so you're just being needlessly pedantic without adding anything to the discussion. Also, Pyrex is still borosilicate in Europe, since soda-lime is hard to get there.

> Also, Pyrex is still borosilicate in Europe, since soda-lime is hard to get there. How is soda-lime glass “hard to get”? The main reason why it's still borosilicate here is because the brand has been licensed to a different company, and their management hasn't chose to stop selling borosilicate.

How is soda-lime glass “hard to get”?

I'm just going by what Wikipedia says:

"Since the closure of the soda–lime plant in England in 2007, European Pyrex has been made solely from borosilicate."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrex

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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Oh that is awful! Total tangent but I started doing group rides again recently and am surprised by how few people wear gloves. After my first fall tearing up my hands I decided I would not let that happen again. And since then, it's really nice when going down not having to plan for where/how the hands land! This past ride someone went down on some really awful shoulder debris and luckily her hands were fine but man…

If you're falling a lot you should think about some bike handling exercises. Low speed maneuvers will likely help. And when you hit rough ground, relax. Twitching the bike while in gravel will just make you go down faster. Just relax, hold on and pray for traction to improve before you reach the point of no return. I've avoided my worst accidents that way. One in particular flummoxed the guy I was riding with. He did…

I'm plenty capable I mean I've had like 4 or 5 unexpected ground falls in 20 years. Hung over rushing to class no hands trying to put a water bottle in my back pocket, someone stepped out from behind an on trail overhead bridge support column, braked hard for someone doing something unexpected and illegal while I was riding downhill on cobblestone. Shit happens, lessons to be learned in every case but protected hands always welcome.

I've never fallen no-handed but it was nice having gloves while developing that skill too ;)

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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I've long ago stopped cooking or putting hot food in plastic containers.. not because of this but because of the possibility other harmful substances leeching from the plastic in to my food. Sure, there are some plastics labeled "for safe" and "BPA-free", but that doesn't guarantee some other plastic that's used doesn't contain harmful substances or cause as yet unknown side effects that just haven't been found by re…

As a daily Aeropress user, I wonder if I should maybe switch to something else. Thoughts?

I just accepted it that everytime I push down it will probably scrape some plastic into the drink

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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Tempered soda-lime glass is still preferable as a food-contact material to almost anything else, but it is much less pleasant to use than borosilicate glass, because it is much heavier and if you abuse it the tempered glass cracks relatively easily (e.g. if after boiling water in a tempered glass teapot you immerse it for cooling in cold water from the tap, the chances of cracking are high, while a borosilicate glass…

Most of my glass containers don't experience those kinds of thermal shocks though, at least non-baking glasses. Most of the containers I'm thinking about which these days have a "pyrex" brand are food containers and measuring cups which might get microwaved. True, if I've got a nice glass casserole dish I might want that to be able to handle the "go from the freezer to a 400F oven in an instant" but most of my glass…

Tempered soda-lime is more durable to physical shocks, borosilicate is more durable to thermal shocks.

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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Most folks that cook a lot don't use non-stick pans much anyway because they just don't last very long. I keep a couple around for eggs and pancakes, but that's it. The usual recommendation for skillets is carbon-steel and cast iron because the seasoning does provide some non-stick properties. I have the full gamut with carbon steel, cast iron, non-stick and stainless steel, and find myself mostly leaning on the carb…

Oh it's worse than that. Unlike steel, cast iron generates dust when abraded. Dust that is really bad for you. Known to cause lung issues, etc. I machine it all the time (both ductile and non). It is usually is machined dry with vacuum because it will clog coolant systems. It basically turns into a horrible mud when mixed with coolant or water I happen to filter the coolant system so i can machine it wet, but that's…

Well now I don't know what to do unless we starting being capable of telekinesis. And even then, is telekinetis debris bad to consume?

It just sounds like we're picking our flavor of poison when we pack our food, something we've done since pre-historic times.

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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If you're falling a lot you should think about some bike handling exercises. Low speed maneuvers will likely help. And when you hit rough ground, relax. Twitching the bike while in gravel will just make you go down faster. Just relax, hold on and pray for traction to improve before you reach the point of no return. I've avoided my worst accidents that way. One in particular flummoxed the guy I was riding with. He did…

I'm plenty capable I mean I've had like 4 or 5 unexpected ground falls in 20 years. Hung over rushing to class no hands trying to put a water bottle in my back pocket, someone stepped out from behind an on trail overhead bridge support column, braked hard for someone doing something unexpected and illegal while I was riding downhill on cobblestone. Shit happens, lessons to be learned in every case but protected hands…

Man college campuses are a warzone for bicycles.

I watched two guys riding too fast through pedestrians hit so hard one guy lost five spokes. And one day some guy coming the opposite way from me on the bike path suddenly started flipping end over end (I think his chain fell into his front wheel but I, too, was late for class so I checked for concussion and fucked off). I just managed to squeak past him but if it had happened twenty milliseconds earlier I would have been part of his drama.

After those two incidents I decided I was safer in the street. Fuckin college kids man.

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Sure, but now its not dishwasher safe because mold.

Mold is the reason wood isn't dishwasher safe? Dishwashers get very hot, I thought they damage wood by steaming it. But shouldn't the steam kill the mold?

I have lots of wooden kitchenwear, all of which gets put in the dishwasher regularly and none of which has gone mouldy.

I also tend to wash a lower heat if that makes any difference. Though I can’t see why it should.

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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There are materials which are "transparent" to microwaves and don't get hot in the microwave oven but I can't remember which ones. And glass definitely isn't one of them.

Glass is mostly transparent to microwaves, which is why all microwave ovens include glass plates. The reason why glass vessels become hotter in a microwave oven is because glass has a much higher thermal conductivity than plastic, so it becomes heated from the hot food. Using two pieces of cloth (e.g. cut from a small towel) to hold the hot glass vessel is enough to take it safely out of the oven and this negligible…

Agreed. My anxiety is already so high I should probably talk to a doctor about it. I just do all my cooking with glass or steel or wood just so I can have 1 less thing to be worried about.

Re: Microwaved plastic containers release microplastics into food

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I'm plenty capable I mean I've had like 4 or 5 unexpected ground falls in 20 years. Hung over rushing to class no hands trying to put a water bottle in my back pocket, someone stepped out from behind an on trail overhead bridge support column, braked hard for someone doing something unexpected and illegal while I was riding downhill on cobblestone. Shit happens, lessons to be learned in every case but protected hands…

Man college campuses are a warzone for bicycles. I watched two guys riding too fast through pedestrians hit so hard one guy lost five spokes. And one day some guy coming the opposite way from me on the bike path suddenly started flipping end over end (I think his chain fell into his front wheel but I, too, was late for class so I checked for concussion and fucked off). I just managed to squeak past him but if it had…

I regret to admit I was a bit faster than I should have been and probably caused some heart palpitations. I'm 30+ now and shaking my fist at the local college kids.

Worst crash I had was a header when I was like 15, mechanical failure (I was learning to "fix" my own). Fortunately adolescent invincibility and a chin first impact allowed me to avoid serious harm, but I took helmets seriously after that too!

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