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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by nicce »

papruapap wrote: post #239
buro9 wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WSL2 in Windows means you can just run a Debian underneath and launch a non-snap Firefox from there and have it appears in Windows. Now you get the benefit of Windows power management (and that beautiful laptop battery life) but a web browser Microsoft isn't going to mess with. This sounds hilarious were it not the way I actually work. PS: I'll also mention that VSCode from Windows to WSL2 + Debian is a mind-blowingl…

What about playing media? Even when running natively, Firefox has the worst gpu acceleration support in my experience.

When was the last time you used it? GPU acceleration works perfectly for me in Mac or Linux.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by marcosdumay »

hutzlibu wrote: post #242
aerzen wrote: post #189

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Hmmm, interesting. How would this be implemented in practice? EU passing laws about specific things that Microsoft should and shouldn't do?

EU can only implement laws regarding companies doing buisness in europe. EU cannot tell Microsoft in general what to do.

It can tell what Microsoft does in Europe. But, of course, MS can always decide to abandon the region instead of complying too.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by awiejrliajw »

andrewcamel wrote: post #251

This is reminiscent of the USA vs Microsoft case in 2001... I wonder how much the antitrust team at Microsoft gets a say in product decisions like this. Just feels like they're toeing a line... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor... . Also definitely not in the best interest of users, which isn't the Satya Nadella way of operating, at least not as demonstrated in the developer tools side of t…

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by dizhn »

mgbmtl wrote: post #141

I get so many support requests of "I clicked on a link and then I was logged-out". They weren't logged-out, they just didn't notice that the link was opened in the wrong browser. Doesn't help that most browsers kind of all look the same.

Thank God for remote desktop access software. My dad's story of the issue is always 100 percent useless. :)

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by nicce »

texuf wrote: post #59
mikepurvis wrote: post #37

Google does something like this with the GMail app on iPhone— you click links and instead of just opening Safari, it pops up a "which browser to use" selector modal, which is really just an advertisement for you to install Chrome.

Then it doesn’t open safari! It opens a safari web view inside the chrome app, which has a whole different set of local settings and cookies, and you have to re log into everything.

Well, at least the latest webview API is perfect sandbox at least on the paper. And no code injection. But I have doubts that Google uses it….

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by marcosdumay »

wongarsu wrote: post #27
frob wrote: post #4

Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.

Google has an equally annoying crusade against anything that isn't Chrome. Visit google.com with Edge (on desktop) and you immediately get a popup on the top right "Google recommends using Chrome. Built for Windows. Easily search on Google with the fast, secure browser". As if there was any material difference between the browsers. We need a comeback of antitrust enforcement with teeth to get both Microsoft and Googl…

Google has an old crusade against Microsoft browsers. It doesn't do the same with the other ones.

What doesn't negate anything you said, it's just a detail worth adding.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by bombolo »

rileyphone wrote: post #255
squarefoot wrote: post #233

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Not to defend in any way his past stances against Open Source, but Bill Gates has nothing to do with today's Microsoft choices. About the Windows gaming machine, you can surely build one just for gaming; just never put any personal data on it, never use it for surfing or doing anything that is not gaming, never give it any unfiltered access to your LAN, assume it contains malicious software then put it on dedicated E…

Gates set up the (toxic) culture that continues today, and still provides high-level input. Definitely has something to do with their choices in the same way Jobs still does at Apple.

jobs died

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Post by EMM_386 »

7373737373 wrote: post #124
kjellsbells wrote: post #42

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He's completely gone from Microsoft. To invoke Gates now on a anti-Microsoft screed would be missing the point. If anyone has beef with Microsoft about Windows, their ire is better directed at Panos Panay and Satya Nadella.

Eventually, only the owners are responsible. Every second they don't kick the managers that implement this crap to the curb is a moral failure on their part. Gates owns 100x more shares than Nadella - about 1% of all shares - and thus has 100x the responsibility. They are both guilty of greed and disrespecting their customers through their actions, or their willful or negligent ignorance and inaction. I don't know ho…

Public companies are out for one thing, and one thing only.

Shareholder returns.

It has nothing to do with CEOs "already being rich", their job is literally to run the company properly so that the shareholders make more money.

Like it or not, that's how it is. Now, if this "crap" actually hurts the brand and the bottom line, they shouldn't implement it. If they are seeing more profits, and not many complaints, it's likely it will stay.

Moral faiure does not come into play.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by ballenf »

acomjean wrote: post #89

Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…

gmail app on iOS refuses to load a link from an email in Safari. It will monthly ask you to confirm if you want to load it in Chrome. If you stick with safari it will load the site in an internal safari webview, requiring a second tap on the bottom to launch in the real safari. Can break some magic link login emails.
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