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FTC sues Amazon over ‘deceptive’ Prime sign-up and cancellation process

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Re: FTC sues Amazon over ‘deceptive’ Prime sign-up and cancellation process

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Post by JohnFen »

ekianjo wrote: post #248
registeredcorn wrote: post #137

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Would you mind listing a few alternatives you use? I generally try to avoid Amazon when I can, but have had problems finding a general good site. In case anyone is wondering what I use, here's a short list: Computer/electronics, I visit Newegg. (I haven't been thrilled with them moving into other areas like Auto parts, etc. but they seem alright for the time being.) Hardware or similar, I go with Tractor Supply Co, H…

Sounds like you make your life more complicated by having to shop in 10 different places. That's why Amazon is practical, it covers a lot of ground. (while they are not the cheapest for many items anymore).

Sure, what Amazon actually sells is convenience. I think it comes at too high of a price (not just talking monetarily), but that's a highly individual kind of determination. Other may think differently, and that's entirely valid as well.

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Post by scrum-treats »

dhdhhdd wrote: post #242
scrum-treats wrote: post #114

As someone who managed to successfully cancel Prime, and then tried to purchase an item on amazon.com, it took me over a minute to figure out how to not accidentally sign up for Prime membership when trying to checkout. There was only one place I could click that would allow me to advance to the next screen (simple text), the text was super small placed below a giant image, and my cursor didn't change to indicate tha…

Prime video, unlimited photo backup and ad free music, but limited selection. 2% extra cash back (on Amazon credit card) (so 5% in total). Not sure if there is anything else, but it can be worthwhile. The unlimited photo backup, including raw, is worthwhile for me (5tb or so)

You do realize Amazon has access to your photos, right?

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Post by scrum-treats »

JohnFen wrote: post #258
scrum-treats wrote: post #228

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Other employers call to learn how your previous employment was at Amazon, and Amazon talks mad trash about you and makes up whatever they want is basically the deal. Like a cult, and you are ostracized from that cult.

> Amazon talks mad trash about you and makes up whatever they want is basically the deal I doubt Amazon does this. It would expose them to too much legal risk. Almost no large employers (in the US) will say much more than "This person worked here from date X to date Y and they (are/are not) eligible for rehire." Not being eligible for rehire is a black mark with many potential employers, of course. But then, having A…

> I doubt Amazon does this. It would expose them to too much legal risk. Almost no large employers (in the US) will say much more than "This person worked here from date X to date Y and they (are/are not) eligible for rehire."

You are overlooking the salient fact that managers and recruiters know each other from one company to another. Backend conversations matter.

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Post by 93po »

version_five wrote: post #223
taeric wrote: post #140

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That said, this isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of the practices. :(

When Amazon was really getting going (say 2015?) I hardly ever went to physical stores and was so happy to have a better alternative. Now everything sucks. Very similar to uber, it was such a breath of fresh air compared to taxis, now it's worse than them. These "disruptors" that just buy their market position suck.

Uber is by far not as bad as taxis.

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Post by version_five »

93po wrote: post #264
version_five wrote: post #223

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When Amazon was really getting going (say 2015?) I hardly ever went to physical stores and was so happy to have a better alternative. Now everything sucks. Very similar to uber, it was such a breath of fresh air compared to taxis, now it's worse than them. These "disruptors" that just buy their market position suck.

Uber is by far not as bad as taxis.

The world is a big place. In Montreal and Toronto, and imo many airports, Taxis are better. They come faster and more reliably, I have a real person to deal with, none of uber's bullshit, and the car and driver are no different. I'm sure it's possible to find places where this isn't true. When uber first came out, it was head and shoulders above taxis though.

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Post by z3c0 »

hospitalJail wrote: post #256
z3c0 wrote: post #207

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I find that Amazon's prices are their trap, and it gives the illusion of having more. I buy lots of cheap components for creating music, and I get far better quality for my dollar from Sweetwater than I ever have on Amazon, even if Amazon's prices were lower.

I think this is fooling ourselves. The cheap 3d Printer filament is fine. Its weird because a mega corporation would consider the quality and if it meets the qualities, they would buy the cheapest price(with few other considerations, maybe china-US relations might deter). In this case, the objective right answer is to buy the cheapest when it comes to 3D printer filament, as long as it meets the quality. It does. I w…

You come off as condescending to assume that someone who doesn't agree with you must be doing so on an emotional basis. That's like me assuming your response is based in a need to justify being cheap. I'm speaking of a specific area - musical components - where I've seen firsthand myself having to replace parts from the Amazon-featured products, where the parts I buy elsewhere at a marginally higher price have never once needed replacing. Sure, maybe your filaments are serving your needs, but my point flat-out was that approach does not fill mine.

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Post by inetsee »

I recently signed up for Prime after resisting for years. The only reason I signed up was for the rapid shipping. I was doing a lot of traveling and I needed to be able to get some stuff quickly. After my current trip I will almost certainly do whatever is required to cancel.

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Post by ekianjo »

registeredcorn wrote: post #254
ekianjo wrote: post #248

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Sounds like you make your life more complicated by having to shop in 10 different places. That's why Amazon is practical, it covers a lot of ground. (while they are not the cheapest for many items anymore).

I suppose you could see it that way. I'd offer a counter, if you will hear me out, though. Generally, I don't see it as any "extra" effort to type in a different website name. I shop with the intention of already knowing what it is I want, it's simply a matter of finding it. I've already set up accounts on each of those sites, and use a password manager. I need to login to each site no matter where I end up because I…

> effort must be expended, so why use that effort on something lack luster and morally questionable?

How do you judge that other online business that have a lower profile than Amazon are not morally questionable?

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Post by ekianjo »

JohnFen wrote: post #259
ekianjo wrote: post #245

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> They're not substantially better than most others. I mentioned return policy. You said nothing about that.

I have needed Amazon's return policy twice, and both times, Amazon stiffed me. In fact, that was the last straw that got me to stop using them. In my personal experience, Amazon has the worst return policy of anywhere I've shopped.

> Amazon has the worst return policy of anywhere I've shopped.

Not my experience at all, Actually completely the opposite. Amazon has had the very best return policy, with no questions asked.

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