What went wrong is that after being divested from Condé Nast, reddit went and raised a huge round that ensured they would have to go down the route of synthetic growth tactics. This whole operation could be wildly profitable with a team of 50-100 people and no major investors to appease. Instead they read the room wrong, or just didn't care, and now we're here.
What Reddit Got Wrong
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#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
It really depends what you're looking for answers to. If you're looking for more trustworthy product reviews than the ones on an Amazon product page, or you're looking for how to fix an obscure problem with your 3d printer, it's damn reliable. Having the opportunity for open and anonymous conversation on these things increases the chance of meaningful discussion. For the former, Google search results are a hodge podg…
> If you're looking for more trustworthy product reviews than the ones on an Amazon product page I totally believe that! But since I personally don't look for product reviews on the internet at all (and absolutely wouldn't look on Amazon), I wouldn't really know. All I'm saying is that for the sorts of things I tend to search for, anyway, finding good resources on the web isn't that hard, so I never really understood…
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#263> Unfortunately, discussions of Reddit-like fediverse services Lemmy and Kbin on Reddit were colored by paranoia after the company banned users and subreddits related to these projects (reportedly due to “spam”). While these accounts and subreddits have been reinstated All have definitely not been reinstated. They banned my 13 year old account without warning because I dared to make an alternative API for Reddit[1].…
So you created an API to bypass the official APIs, promoted it on Reddit itself, and wonder why you got banned? Color me surprised.
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#264> Unfortunately, discussions of Reddit-like fediverse services Lemmy and Kbin on Reddit were colored by paranoia after the company banned users and subreddits related to these projects (reportedly due to “spam”). While these accounts and subreddits have been reinstated All have definitely not been reinstated. They banned my 13 year old account without warning because I dared to make an alternative API for Reddit[1].…
"The goal of this project is to offer a fallback in case Reddit does continue with its plan to charge app developers fees" So you created an API to bypass the official APIs, promoted it on Reddit itself, and wonder why you got banned? Color me surprised.
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#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why does an alternative need to exist? Because there are a great many people that have legitimately used Reddit as their "frontpage of the internet" for years and don't enjoy the form factor that other websites / apps provide. Places like Twitter and TikTok aren't everyone's cup of tea, especially if you're not the type of person that just mindlessly ingests content.
>if you're not the type of person that just mindlessly ingests content My take is that this type of person is more likely to not need to replace their feed fix with another feed and is more likely to pursue fulfillment in other areas of life.
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#266I never understand why Reddit is credited to the "free community based moderation" idea Facebook does this at much larger scale (2B users active in FB Groups), with way more spam, and some FB groups are much larger than most big subreddits Its not about Facebook or Reddit, its about people being so power hungry they do these things for free. When subreddits post about bringing in more mods, thousands apply, maybe 2 g…
There are well over a million subreddits. Even counting just large groups, there likely several thousand subreddits which have individually-specific focuses and moderation criteria. Reddit reports 100+ million active subreddits.[1] The two problems with moving to an in-house, wage-labour moderation team are that this is expensive and wage labour at prices Reddit is likely willing to pay will not meet the standards of…
A discussion elsewhere had me looking at how much front-page HN activity is attributable to what number of profiles. Using my crawl data mentioned above:
- 2 submitters with > 1,000 stories
- 170 w/ >= 100
- 2,812 w/ >= 10
- 19,165 w/ >=2
That very nearly perfectly follows the rule I'd given above: reducing the items by a factor of ten (here: number of front-page posts) increases the submitters by about a factor of 10 (roughly: 2, 200, 2,000, 20,000).Half of all HN front-page stories since 2007 were submitted by just 2,092 profiles, of 43,598 represented in all front-page stories. As of 2021, Whaly.io found 767,496 active profiles since 2005: https://whaly.io/posts/hacker-news-2021-retrospective>. (Post or comment activity.)
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#267I think the idea put out by some people here that Reddit might be in the process of radically changing tracks is plausible. Reddit was always very hands-off. They had lots of very unpleasant and controversial content until their hand was forced. Overall they seem to want a site that runs itself as much as possible and over time content that required interaction and management (eg, AMAs, Secret Santa) got de-prioritiz…
Reddit hasn't been hands off for about 6-7 years.... A lot of the hate, racism and legally ambiguous stuff left years ago for better or worse. Kind of unhappy they left a lot of the degen fetish stuff though, that's the thing stopping me admitting to using the service in public. Now they have the lowest value user data of any social media company and are firing people from jobs they do for free (lol) to get the site…
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#268I think the idea put out by some people here that Reddit might be in the process of radically changing tracks is plausible. Reddit was always very hands-off. They had lots of very unpleasant and controversial content until their hand was forced. Overall they seem to want a site that runs itself as much as possible and over time content that required interaction and management (eg, AMAs, Secret Santa) got de-prioritiz…
All you have to do is look at what every other social media platform has done, which is devolve into an infinite scroll of the following: - Kitty/puppy videos - Exotic street food - girls with shorts/leggings showing buttcrack or cameltoe acting oblivious or holding a product (i.e. using ambiguous sexuality to sell something) - Someone doing some kind of weird elaborate craft as a form of spectacle - Twerking or faux…
The amount that the market pays to inject adverts into youtube product reviews versus 'proper' content is staggering. A good guitarist is better doing a review on headphones, than actually playing a guitar. A runner is better doing a review on the latest Nikes rather than giving training advice.
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#269The main problem with this article is that it's only handling the current events, without taking into account that Reddit has a long-standing history of user-hostile decisions. For example... let's talk about The_Donald, shall we? (inb4: I'm not from USA, "Trump" and "Biden" for me are just "some leaders from some tacoland", so I'm not emotionally attached into this matter.) Some users were protesting that The_Donald…
> Why doesn't Reddit outright tell its users its values? Why is it always lying? Why does it put a CEO to disdain the community, with a "we snoos" (something redditors never use)? The real answer is that everyone asking this question is just revving up for a fight. It's like apologizing for something that you said as a teenager that was found on social media: the only people asking for the apology don't really care w…
It's more like apologising for something that you kept doing, since your teenager times, and that you keep doing. In this case at least some people asking for an apology want to see a difference, not just "revving up for a fight".
That said, even not saying your values would be better than lying about them. And worse than lying - lying in an obvious way, that is bound to be interpreted as "you're such braindead trash that we can throw any bullshit on your snouts and you'll eat it".
Re: What Reddit Got Wrong
#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
All you have to do is look at what every other social media platform has done, which is devolve into an infinite scroll of the following: - Kitty/puppy videos - Exotic street food - girls with shorts/leggings showing buttcrack or cameltoe acting oblivious or holding a product (i.e. using ambiguous sexuality to sell something) - Someone doing some kind of weird elaborate craft as a form of spectacle - Twerking or faux…
...and reviews. The amount that the market pays to inject adverts into youtube product reviews versus 'proper' content is staggering. A good guitarist is better doing a review on headphones, than actually playing a guitar. A runner is better doing a review on the latest Nikes rather than giving training advice.