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Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by Tommah »

jjulius wrote: post #225
paxys wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same way moderators could go create their own version of reddit. Or you an I could just start a new basketball league. Or create a new internet if we are unhappy with the existing one. This line of reasoning goes nowhere.

Sure it does. If "casual users were not happy to find out that they would have nowhere to discuss the most important game of the season" (an assertion that is incredibly laughable) and were really that upset, there could've been an r/NBA2 in half a second - far easier than recreating Reddit itself or making their own league. And yet, nobody did that...

/r/nba2 exists. It was created 10 years ago.

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Post by mulmen »

xatax wrote: post #103
CSMastermind wrote: post #64

> A number of Snoos have been working around the clock, adapting to infrastructure strains, engaging with communities, and responding to the myriad of issues related to this blackout I find a CEO referring to their employees as 'Snoos' to be offputting personally. I'm sure it's meant to be a fun and inclusive term but the guy is sending out a pretty serious email that ends in, "I am sorry to say this, but please be m…

Snoo is the name of the reddit alien. I believe it was going to be the original name of the site (what's new - what'S NOO). Since "redditor" is a community name, it makes sense there would be a different internal/employee demonym and Snoo fits the site as good as any other name might.

Here’s an idea, call them employees.

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Post by bshipp »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #242
judge2020 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An influx of capital would be easier by making everyone pay $10/mo to access the API via third-party clients. Would still be unpopular but would mean people could still have the experience they want to see from reddit. but that's the issue - Reddit's been focusing on other forms of content only in the native Reddit app, like TikTok-esque live streams and promoted posts from subs you aren't subscribed to.

It seems like they realized the value of user content for AI training too late, and are trying to hamfistedly lock down the golden egg goose for their upcoming IPO.

Pushshift.io used to host a complete repository for Reddit. I think there were archives on the internet archive as well. There are numerous torrents with terabytes of text content for training AIs. Perhaps they might lock it down going forward, but language training horse fled and was eaten by coyotes a decade ago.

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Post by [deleted] »

lapcat wrote: post #168
CSMastermind wrote: post #64

> A number of Snoos have been working around the clock, adapting to infrastructure strains, engaging with communities, and responding to the myriad of issues related to this blackout I find a CEO referring to their employees as 'Snoos' to be offputting personally. I'm sure it's meant to be a fun and inclusive term but the guy is sending out a pretty serious email that ends in, "I am sorry to say this, but please be m…

It sounds like something from Dr. Seuss

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Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by yanderekko »

jsemrau wrote: post #52
nickstinemates wrote: post #2

Original report is available on the verge[1], which contains the full message sent by reddit CEO. 1: https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/13/23759559/reddit-internal-...

"I am sorry to say this, but please be mindful of wearing Reddit gear in public. Some folks are really upset, and we don’t want you to be the object of their frustrations.” Overreaction much ? Are we really become that desensitized as a society? I find that hard to believe.

Overdramatizing threats to your own personal safety is a common tactic of seasoned victims, and is routinely employed by all parties in these sorts of disputes.

Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by andsoitis »

jupp0r wrote: post #178
extr wrote: post #38

I don't really understand why it had to be this way. It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Even just announcing the same change with 6 months of lead time rather than 1 month would have gone over better. Or boil the frog and gradually introduce API restrictions. It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.

Or just invest in building mobile apps that people love to use more than the alternatives.

Could it be that most Reddit traffic is via web, and so it isn't worthwhile?

Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by jjulius »

Tommah wrote: post #261
jjulius wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure it does. If "casual users were not happy to find out that they would have nowhere to discuss the most important game of the season" (an assertion that is incredibly laughable) and were really that upset, there could've been an r/NBA2 in half a second - far easier than recreating Reddit itself or making their own league. And yet, nobody did that...

/r/nba2 exists. It was created 10 years ago.

I mean, I guess I assumed nobody had created an alternative NBA subreddit during the drama that OP highlighted - my fault for being flippant. If anything, the fact that r/NBA2, and a bunch of other similar subs that a flagged comment mentioned in response to me, already exist only further highlights the absurdity of the claim that there's nowhere to discuss the game if r/NBA is blacked out.

Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by bshipp »

ta8645 wrote: post #258
bshipp wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have only moderated relatively small subreddits with hundreds of users and even that was an exhausting slog that was only made feasible with third party subreddit tools. if you think it's difficult to maintain moderator consistency now, just wait until subreddits are forced to bring on hundreds of moderators to handle the workload. Reddit admin and users have no idea how much free labour they are benefitting from a…

That makes sense. Although, it goes against the dismissive post to which I was replying, that said Reddit will provide all the missing functionality without a problem.

Apologies, I likely clicked the wrong comment to reply. I agree with you, it's impossible for Reddit to provide that missing functionality. The moderation teams on some popular subreddits are almost the size of the entire paid Reddit admin staff. There is simply no way Reddit can take over the free moderation duties currently undertaken by volunteers.

Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by yanderekko »

bshipp wrote: post #115
sdmike1 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Damn, that's a hell of a message. it'll be interesting to see if it starts to go dark again, if slacktavism takes over and there is no follow through.

Even if subreddits don't go dark, the impact will be rapidly observable in August as moderation becomes extremely difficult and subreddit support bots that eliminate spam and maintain post quality stop working.

>the impact will be rapidly observable in August as moderation becomes extremely difficult

Is there a market out there where I can bet all my money against this claim? The idea that this will lead to a spam wave destroying Reddit is wishful thinking on the part of aggrieved moderators who see themselves as forming a Thin Blue Line against a tide of chaos.

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