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Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by paulddraper »

chongli wrote: post #136
raydev wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If they want more ads, they can change the APIs to inject them. Reddit wants freedom to arbitrarily change the design of their app and placement of ads, etc. Ads are a huge (primary?) source of revenue for them. If they are tethered to supporting third party clients, it's harder to make reasonable estimates of how many captive users will see ads or new features. Reddit could enforce ad presentation in third party c…

you can just charge third parties the cost to cover loss of ad views Except that's not what Reddit is doing here. They're charging 3rd party clients ~21X what they lose in ad views, pricing them completely out of the market.

> ~21X what they lose in ad views

Credible citation needed

EDIT: Okay I see the 20x figure in the article

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by adzm »

PNewling wrote: post #172
bluescrn wrote: post #145

Please Reddit, just let us use a web browser to access your web site. Users shouldn’t be forced so aggressively into using an ‘app’ - whether the official one or a 3rd-party app - when mobile web browsers are so very capable.

Have you tried using the 'old' reddit? Replacing 'www.' with 'old.' will move you over to the old style of reddit and will keep you there when clicking through links. https://old.reddit.com/r/all/

If you have an account you can also just tell it to use the old / desktop site in settings.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by xg15 »

idiotsecant wrote: post #216
doix wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but what they've left Reddit with as a differentiator are the communities. Yeah, I pretty much only use reddit for a few game communities, unfortunately with this change I suspect more and more people will move to discord. It's pretty annoying, but I suspect I'll have to eventually cave and join them when they finally kill old.reddit.com.

ugh, discord is basically IRC. There's a reason we don't use IRC for everything. I hate that it's replacing everything.

Discord reuses the IRC "aesthetic" with "servers", channels and slash commands, but the actual structure of the conversations is much more like a forum.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by adastra22 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #233
rickreynoldssf wrote: post #194

Reddit Permabanned me (13 year old 450k karma account) after I went after crypto scammers, calling out the scam with details etc. I got tons of coins or whatever gifted to me and even more thanks and way to go from users. Evidently reddit considered it harassment (of the plain as day scammers) and won't budge after an appeal. So, f reddit.

You can always file a lawsuit. In Germany, it's even easier, a C&D court order is enough here to make most of the social networks reconsider.

On what basis?

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Post by alpaca128 »

galangalalgol wrote: post #211
BlackjackCF wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. I only find Reddit tolerable because of Apollo. The official Reddit app pales in comparison. I hope they can come to some sort of agreement or find a way to acquihire the Apollo developer (though that might kill the app with crappy features as well).

I've always just used the web, is there some reason to use an app for it? I liked it as a place to look for people talking about things I might want to buy. I'm sure it is full of fake comments, but the ones that make verifiable claims for or against are useful.

> is there some reason to use an app for it?

Yes, the obstructive popup when you visit reddit on a mobile browser to force you into installing the app. Other than that only if you want to do more than read.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by SnorkelTan »

consumer451 wrote: post #249

Can someone give me a couple reasons why it does not make sense to buy Apollo out, and make it the default iOS app? It is currently maintained by one excellent developer, is featured by the Apple App Store for design... what's the downside?

Why spend millions when you can just shut off their api access?

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

consumer451 wrote: post #249

Can someone give me a couple reasons why it does not make sense to buy Apollo out, and make it the default iOS app? It is currently maintained by one excellent developer, is featured by the Apple App Store for design... what's the downside?

The downside is the developer has pride and cares about building a good product. Not about whatever insanity the Reddit "leadership" wants done to their platform.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by Terretta »

eatsyourtacos wrote: post #142

Reddit is getting destroyed by tiktok for casual news/random videos etc. I was a huge reddit user over the years, but now I only go there for a handful of very specific subreddits. That's really it's only use anymore. It's great for that, but they are probably seeing massive decline in usage. And the moment they basically kill 3rd party reddit apps is the day I barely touch it again.

> Reddit is getting destroyed by tiktok for casual news/random videos etc.

Yes please. Random videos should move to TikTok.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by nottorp »

thewataccount wrote: post #226
Banbeck wrote: post #171

Well, looks like this is the end of any social media use for me. Reddit was already hanging by a thread for me. Not being able to use Apollo for this will be the last nail in the coffin.

Serious question and I don't mean anything negative - Do you consider HN to be social media? Using it as just a news source seems really valid. And it feels different from other social media platforms because of the focus on full discussions. But surely this still counts as social media? Genuinely asking because I see you made your account just to post this comment - why did you do that? It's not a bad thing (I'm her…

I've noticed that everything that allows interaction between users is social media for the younger generation. They have no notion of forum, chat app or... social media organized like facebook or tiktok.
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