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When “free forever” means “free for the next 4 months”

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If your free plan is unreliable good luck converting users to paid though.

I have a tiny VPS that costs less than $2 per month. I run a chat server on it. In seven years it has had no failures and one hour of planned downtime. That's better than any of the major cloud services. Simple stuff is surprisingly reliable.

What software are you using? I'm guessing it's probably not Matrix.

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I have a tiny VPS that costs less than $2 per month. I run a chat server on it. In seven years it has had no failures and one hour of planned downtime. That's better than any of the major cloud services. Simple stuff is surprisingly reliable.

What software are you using? I'm guessing it's probably not Matrix.

The Conduit matrix server.

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It was indeed originally 1gb and only ever grew. There even used to be a “live counter” of the max storage ticking up. OP is probably thinking of google photos.

OP here. When Gmail launched in beta, it advertised unlimited storage. Then changed to 1TB. Then kept increasing, until they stopped.

http://googlepress.blogspot.com/2004/04/google-gets-message-...

2004, announcement says 1GB. This stuff is easy to check, why don't you?

Re: When “free forever” means “free for the next 4 months”

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I have a tiny VPS that costs less than $2 per month. I run a chat server on it. In seven years it has had no failures and one hour of planned downtime. That's better than any of the major cloud services. Simple stuff is surprisingly reliable.

What software are you using? I'm guessing it's probably not Matrix.

I’m guessing that if you don’t join big federated chatrooms on your Matrix server, it runs absolutely fine on minimal resources.

One of the smarter things the bluesky team looks to be doing is to split the world into heavy-lifting versus personal servers, so folks don’t end up with their personal servers suddenly sucking up lots of resources just because a user views #wtf or whatever. We should look into this sort of tiering too for Matrix, to eliminate the “Matrix is resource heavy” snark.

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What software are you using? I'm guessing it's probably not Matrix.

I’m guessing that if you don’t join big federated chatrooms on your Matrix server, it runs absolutely fine on minimal resources. One of the smarter things the bluesky team looks to be doing is to split the world into heavy-lifting versus personal servers, so folks don’t end up with their personal servers suddenly sucking up lots of resources just because a user views #wtf or whatever. We should look into this sort of…

I don't federate. If I had more control over how much data other servers could dump on my server, other than restricting rooms with X number of users, I would. Synapse and Element together are heavier than any other chat servers/clients I've ran, with only one exception.

It is not a big problem, because my number of active users is fairly small (under 50), but I could see myself having to use a different server software, or possibly a different protocol all together, if it were to open up and grow.

Re: When “free forever” means “free for the next 4 months”

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Nothing will be free forever if the company foots the bill. Eventually, the number of free users, who don't transition aren't worth it. They can go nuclear and kill the free, but most often it's reducing the free tier until it's no longer usable.

How long do you think we have with Gmail?

Your data pays for the upkeep, same with every other free social media app.

This is about servers, where the hosting bill is footed by the company, until its not.

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OP here. When Gmail launched in beta, it advertised unlimited storage. Then changed to 1TB. Then kept increasing, until they stopped.

http://googlepress.blogspot.com/2004/04/google-gets-message-... 2004, announcement says 1GB. This stuff is easy to check, why don't you?

You are right. Apologies. I was remembering from memory and I guess lesson learnt that memory can be deceiving.
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