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Do you have some relevant sources about banking fraud? Android devices make up more than 70% of Thailand's market share [0], so it's not a surprise.
[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/814490/market-share-mobi...
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No. Preventing people from doing something "for their own good" is never the right solution. Instead, we should strive to educate people on proper online safety measures so that they don't fall victim to fraudulent attempts.
I’ve seen even the most educated tech savvy people fall for these frauds. So I would say “educating people” is insufficient.
Another problem is because the law works extremely slowly, by the time any legal action can be taken to take down the destination bank accounts the fraudsters have already gained and taken the money.
Sideloading is the thing that works because the legal infrastructure simply can’t keep up with the fraudsters.
I would be inclined to agree with you if I know that the legal system immediately stops fraudsters and returns the money to the people without damange. We’re far from that.
As the developer of a subscription app, if unfettered side-loading is allowed I'd be worried about cracked versions of my app being distributed. We've done everything in the client for privacy and reliability, but the obvious countermeasure would be to move functionality over to a backend. This would be history echoing the transition from boxed software to SaaS.
Sideloading/piracy is already possible on ios with stuff like altstore. It just needs to resign the app every 7 days.
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No. Preventing people from doing something "for their own good" is never the right solution. Instead, we should strive to educate people on proper online safety measures so that they don't fall victim to fraudulent attempts.
If you want to achieve something that you think sideloading is the only answer for then maybe try and find another solution? Btw. I’m not arguing we shouldn’t educate people about the dangers of phishing etc etc. just that engineers should find better solutions than shortcuts.
Some people will never understand the need to be vigilant. And even vigilant people have momentary lapses of vigilance.
[edit] i think we’re talking about deliberate sideloading but also accidental sideloading in the same breath here. One enables the other? Accidental sideloading is very much undesirable.
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> Most of the cases are found to be on android devices. Do you have some relevant sources about banking fraud? Android devices make up more than 70% of Thailand's market share [0], so it's not a surprise. [0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/814490/market-share-mobi...
The banks then reply and say “the fraud transaction originated from customer’s device”. When you look at the screenshots of victims giving example it’s all Android as far as I can see.
Generally after talking to the banks and customers discover that it was their own fault for clicking on a seemingly harmless link they shut up and go quiet.
This is a story that plays out often here.
I don’t particularly have a link because these cases get deleted from social media (by the customer themselves) after the bank has proven that it’s the customers fault.
Edit: You can try searching the internet for “mobile banking fraud Thailand” you’ll find these links, here is one example.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/2524469/mobile-banking-...
Edit: here is an example the article mentions downloading of .apk on android
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And it's not like people with iOS are resistant to being scammed - there are hundreds of ways criminals can dupe you to sending them money, the invoice scam being the simplest example and it doesn't require any special apps.
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No. Preventing people from doing something "for their own good" is never the right solution. Instead, we should strive to educate people on proper online safety measures so that they don't fall victim to fraudulent attempts.
Engineering disagrees. Having safety interlocks on machines is seen as necessary and sensible to prevent accidental harm. If you want to achieve something that you think sideloading is the only answer for then maybe try and find another solution? Btw. I’m not arguing we shouldn’t educate people about the dangers of phishing etc etc. just that engineers should find better solutions than shortcuts. Some people will nev…
Right, which is why operating systems ship with security and sandboxing features. Security does not require an App Store.