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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by lern_too_spel »

atdrummond wrote: post #158

Nothing will change. I was attacked in Christmas ‘21 in the Tenderloin, right after walking out of the KFC/Taco Bell on Eddy. Two cop cars drove by me and did nothing. It was only due to an ambulance finishing a run at Sutter and spotting me that I didn’t bleed out on the suitcase. I have video, proof of damages physical and financial, eyewitnesses and the info of the men who attacked me. SFPD will not arrest them be…

Why should police care whether the DA brings charges? Their job is to arrest people committing crimes. Besides, even Boudin would charge violent criminals. Your story sounds like a clear case of police not doing their jobs.

https://missionlocal.org/2022/04/chesa-boudin-files-more-cha...

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by Xcelerate »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #245
atdrummond wrote: post #158

Nothing will change. I was attacked in Christmas ‘21 in the Tenderloin, right after walking out of the KFC/Taco Bell on Eddy. Two cop cars drove by me and did nothing. It was only due to an ambulance finishing a run at Sutter and spotting me that I didn’t bleed out on the suitcase. I have video, proof of damages physical and financial, eyewitnesses and the info of the men who attacked me. SFPD will not arrest them be…

„Conservatives who think people will grow out of it, or that observable declines in quality of living or public safety will have an impact, don't get it. It's a faith, backed by power and media. You can't fight that with reason, especially when you are being silenced.“ https://twitter.com/vdarejamesk/status/1643462162776567808

I’ve lived in the southeast, the Bay Area, and Europe. The Bay Area is my favorite, but every time I go back to visit I’m just astonished — is this what the residents really want (well, SF more specifically)? I can see people agreeing with the group-think in public to fit in, but in the private of the voting booths they still vote for representatives and policies they know are going to destroy the city? It’s mind-blowing to me. Are we so split on issues to the point where we can’t have clean, safe, healthy, well-educated cities anymore?

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by [deleted] »

harimau777 wrote: post #242
atdrummond wrote: post #158

Nothing will change. I was attacked in Christmas ‘21 in the Tenderloin, right after walking out of the KFC/Taco Bell on Eddy. Two cop cars drove by me and did nothing. It was only due to an ambulance finishing a run at Sutter and spotting me that I didn’t bleed out on the suitcase. I have video, proof of damages physical and financial, eyewitnesses and the info of the men who attacked me. SFPD will not arrest them be…

A major problem as I see it is a lack of nuanced policy. Currently in America it seems that you can either have police brutality and criminalized homelessness or you can have non-enforcement. What we really need is to prosecute crime but without tolerating police brutality or making laws designed to punish the poor.

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by TrackerFF »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #185
martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

1. Due to the temperate weather, California has largely become the dumping ground for America's chronic homeless. This is rooted in longstanding housing policies causing a shortfall of affordable housing nationwide. 2. On top of that, California has additional broken tax policies and other policies that deepen the shortage of affordable housing. 3. Big cities are where the services are, such as soup kitchens. If you…

6. Treatment/care for mental illnesses is pretty much non-existent if you can't afford it. And if you're a violent homeless person, there's a pretty good chance you have some underlying psychological condition.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by Jochim »

newbie578 wrote: post #199
atdrummond wrote: post #158

Nothing will change. I was attacked in Christmas ‘21 in the Tenderloin, right after walking out of the KFC/Taco Bell on Eddy. Two cop cars drove by me and did nothing. It was only due to an ambulance finishing a run at Sutter and spotting me that I didn’t bleed out on the suitcase. I have video, proof of damages physical and financial, eyewitnesses and the info of the men who attacked me. SFPD will not arrest them be…

I just want to know why do people let the current status quo be in SF? I mean hearing cases like these makes you lean to the right even though you disagree with them, but when you look what the left is doing, you are left with no alternative..

Because the status quo has lead to a steady reduction in crime. Long term statistics are way down, and so are most short term statistics as well:

2017-2022 [0]:

* ~9,000 fewer incidents in total.

* Rape halved.

* Robberies decreased to 2/3 of 2017 numbers.

* Burglary/Motor vehicle theft increased but Larceny theft decreased by more than both combined.

Q1 2017/2023 [0]:

* ~4,000 fewer incidents in total.

* Only Motor vehicle theft and Arson were slightly up on 2017 levels.

Q1 2022/2023 [0]:

* Total incidents down by 9.7%

* Burglary down by 11.2%

* Motor vehicle theft down by 8.5%

* Larceny theft down by 12%

* Assaults did increase by 2.2%

* As did Robberies by 13.6%

[0] https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/stay-safe/crime-data/crim...

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by refurb »

rswerve wrote: post #249
atdrummond wrote: post #158

Nothing will change. I was attacked in Christmas ‘21 in the Tenderloin, right after walking out of the KFC/Taco Bell on Eddy. Two cop cars drove by me and did nothing. It was only due to an ambulance finishing a run at Sutter and spotting me that I didn’t bleed out on the suitcase. I have video, proof of damages physical and financial, eyewitnesses and the info of the men who attacked me. SFPD will not arrest them be…

I don’t know your case, but it’s also possible that the police won’t make an arrest because police in America tend to go on low-key strike when a liberal prosecutor is elected, and then loudly proclaim that the DA is undermining the rule of law. This article is about a different kind of “police pullback,” but the underlying phenomenon—cops won’t work when they’re challenged—is the same. https://www.propublica.org/art…

Or another take is - why bother arresting people if you know they're going to be released right away and likely never charged?

It shouldn't be surprising that the DA’s office and police need to work together.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by kodisha »

I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h.

I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night.

No more.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by paisawalla »

rswerve wrote: post #249
atdrummond wrote: post #158

Nothing will change. I was attacked in Christmas ‘21 in the Tenderloin, right after walking out of the KFC/Taco Bell on Eddy. Two cop cars drove by me and did nothing. It was only due to an ambulance finishing a run at Sutter and spotting me that I didn’t bleed out on the suitcase. I have video, proof of damages physical and financial, eyewitnesses and the info of the men who attacked me. SFPD will not arrest them be…

I don’t know your case, but it’s also possible that the police won’t make an arrest because police in America tend to go on low-key strike when a liberal prosecutor is elected, and then loudly proclaim that the DA is undermining the rule of law. This article is about a different kind of “police pullback,” but the underlying phenomenon—cops won’t work when they’re challenged—is the same. https://www.propublica.org/art…

As a developer, I would get pretty upset and demoralized if someone came and periodically reverted all my commits. Imagine if I actually had to risk my life to make those "commits"?

It's not hard to see why they stay in the car and keep driving if the arrests don't even lead to prosections.

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