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Nalanda University flourished for more than seven centuries

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Re: Nalanda University flourished for more than seven centuries

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Propaganda is a strong term that suggests an ulterior motive. What is the ulterior motive here for calling Nalanda a university?

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Time and again Indians prove themselves to be the most self-hating community of them all. Not everything has an agenda. > Hindus were subjugated by Muslims and English Which is historically true. All of North India has zero temples or structures of historic importance that are more than a few hundred years old. A Bihari Hindu should not have to go searching in Tamil Nadu for signs that his ancestors achieved things o…

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Yale has 15k students and its library has a collection of 15 million. Cornell has 25k students and 10 million books.

How many of the books that Yale and Cornell have are hand-written on hand-produced paper and manually bound codexes? The printing press is kind of a big deal .

Yes, a big deal that existed for around two hundred years before the founding of Nalanda University. I'd assume the majority of their texts to be the product of xylography; movable type and book binding are not prerequisites for mass-produced text.

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It is fairly standard in Indian right wing media to be dismissive of anything positive of Islamic origin, by constructing a short alternative history as per the writers imagination. So any post Islamic Arab contributions to math would have to be stolen from India, using bloodshed - as if math is a treasure that can be lifted or looted or were existing amongst Arabs before Islam.

Nobody is talking about "right wing media" etc other than you. What is being pointed out is the achievements of civilizations predating Islam in those countries which are today Islamic. It is simple factual History.

It is was fairly straightforward for me to tell that you belong to the Indian right wing, from your biases when commenting about a secular topic like mathematics.

> It is simple factual History.

Just like post Islamic Arab mathematics by Al Khawrizmi, Al Biruni et al.

> Nobody is talking about "right wing media" etc other than you.

Yes, and ... ??

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Buddhism is very distinct from Hinduism. In particular, there aren't multiple deities to worship and there is no caste system. Buddhism, the dominant religion of India circa 400AD (as per Chinese travellers), was already under attack from Brahmins who made it a key strategy to get royal patronage, set up the religious rules for society which heavily favored themselves and also focused on acting as confidantes to king…

>there aren't multiple deities to worship and there is no caste system. There are multiple deities [0] and Buddha didn't oppose caste system. He advocated it on deed and not birth which is not very diffrent from Hindu views of caste. Could you point to some instance from ancient Indians history when discrimination was made on the basis of caste, color, or gender? The Buddha:– "Not by birth is one an outcast; not by b…

Buddhism has no concept of caste. Gita has caste by birth as a central theme. In particular, Gita makes it loud and explicitly clear that even if a person is better at the birth caste duties of a different caste than his own caste duty ( which he is not any good at) he should only perform his own caste duties. Caste lines cannot be crossed. There is absolutely nothing like this in Buddhism.

https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/18/verse/47

"It is better to do one’s own dharma, even though imperfectly, than to do another’s dharma, even though perfectly. By doing one’s innate duties, a person does not incur sin."

Next verse

"One should not abandon duties born of one’s nature, even if one sees defects in them, O son of Kunti. Indeed, all endeavors are veiled by some evil, as fire is by smoke."

The whole set of verses before and after this verse is worth a read

https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/18/verse/41

The website adds the phrase "and not by birth" in the translation that is not present in the original Sanskrit verse to mitigate modern sensibilities, but the following verses go on to contradict the additional phrase added in the translation.

There are other verses that shame intercaste marriages as well.

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Nobody is talking about "right wing media" etc other than you. What is being pointed out is the achievements of civilizations predating Islam in those countries which are today Islamic. It is simple factual History.

It is was fairly straightforward for me to tell that you belong to the Indian right wing, from your biases when commenting about a secular topic like mathematics. > It is simple factual History. Just like post Islamic Arab mathematics by Al Khawrizmi, Al Biruni et al. > Nobody is talking about "right wing media" etc other than you. Yes, and ... ??

>It is was fairly straightforward for me to tell that you belong to the Indian right wing

None of my posts have anything to do with "right wing"; It is your reading of them that is flawed.

If anything, hiding behind internet anonymity and posting ad hominem comments tells a lot about you.

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Won't that imply that "humans" didn't exist until the term "human" was invented?

a term defined is different from a thing existing.

A term by any other name would still smell as sweet as ... ;)

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Time and again Indians prove themselves to be the most self-hating community of them all. Not everything has an agenda. > Hindus were subjugated by Muslims and English Which is historically true. All of North India has zero temples or structures of historic importance that are more than a few hundred years old. A Bihari Hindu should not have to go searching in Tamil Nadu for signs that his ancestors achieved things o…

Please don't take HN threads further into political and/or nationalistic and/or religious flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

oof, getting scolded is rough. Got it.

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Please don't take HN threads further into political and/or nationalistic and/or religious flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

oof, getting scolded is rough. Got it.

Yeah, I know it feels bad and that's not the intention - we just have to do what we can to try to prevent this place from experiencing the default internet outcome (self-immolation), or at least to stave that off for a little longer.

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Re: Nalanda University flourished for more than seven centuries

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> They weren't forced exist under a single political entity where one group was a substantial majority of the total. See: The Mauryan Empire, various Khmer kings. The Kings were previously Hindu, converted to Buddhism with no conflicts arising from this change. There was no iconoclasm, no discrimination against Hindus, no mass genocide. > [1] See the main article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_Sri_Lank…

> Stop trying to manufacture a conflict between Buddhism and Hinduism where none exists. The point I'm trying to make is that these conflicts are caused by trying to place people of different ethnicities, religions, traditions, etc under the same political entity when they did not consent to it. It has nothing to do with particular religions. I've posted examples of various artificial partitions in previous comments…

> Religion is one of the reasons behind the divisions

My brother it is literally in the founding documents of Pakistan. There is no other reason. There is no ethnic, cultural, genetic or other such divide between Pakistanis and Indians - we are the same for all intents and purposes except for religion.

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