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Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by adql »

traceroute66 wrote: post #248
Shank wrote: post #70

I'm sure they spent a lot of time thinking about this, but why not just call it something "Linode by Akamai" or "Akamai Linode"? Neither "Akamai’s cloud computing services" or "Akamai Connected Cloud" sound like viable names. Is the goal just to get people to say "I use Akamai"? I could even see a viable strategy where they rename the existing Linode but create a new Linode, ala Lightsail just to keep the name. They…

> but why not just call it something "Linode by Akamai" or "Akamai Linode"? Because they know they're up against the AWS, GCP and Azure's of this world.... So it's probably a touch of the "nobody got fired for buying IBM", i.e. they consider "Akamai" to have more clout on a proposal sheet than "Linode". Of course nobody sensible reads anything into a brand name, but if you're trying to impress the customer's C-suite…

I never saw any clout attached to Akamai of all things, it's just "that other big CDN"

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by jpgvm »

gniv wrote: post #187
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #180

We used linode since 2007, and the experience was good. Would be sad for it to end up being swallowed by some huge soulless corporation which is acutely aware of preserving their own brand.

It's funny to see Akamai called a soulless corp. I still remember when they IPO'd in late 1999. It was viewed very positively in academic circles too. Incidentally, I just looked at the stock price from back then and it was higher than it is now. Post dotcom bubble the stock never reached those highs again.

In those days a lot of the staff were MIT alumni and a ton of MIT students did internships there, thus the academia connection.

Ultimately it became a ball of mud/perl and fell behind contemporaries as CDN as a concept was commoditised. Their decline in market cap is directly attributable to this trend.

Meanwhile the 2 main newcomers used aggressive strategies to eat their lunch. On the web side CloudFlare offered free TLS termination and eventually basic CDN features for free. Something Akamai never acquired was the many-account scalability to do because their platform is so high touch.

Fastly attacked their entrenched video and media business, primarily with very efficient systems, compelling pricing and Varnish compatibility rather than ball of perl w/bespoke settings etc.

These days Akamai is the dinosaur and CloudFlare is pretty much the new incumbent, at least in terms of market share.

Compute at the edge is the new thing in town and Cloudflare and Fastly both have fairly high quality solutions while Akamai again falls behind.

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by adql »

lamontcg wrote: post #120
jay-barronville wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t tell you why you haven’t heard of Linode much, but yes, the Linode brand absolutely is well known. When I think Linode, I think developer, small consultancy, etc. When I think Akamai, I think enterprise. Completely different brands. It just seems like such a bizarre business decision to me for Akamai to throw a strong brand like that away just because they want to slap their name on the product instead. All i…

> When I think Linode, I think developer, small consultancy, etc. When I think Akamai, I think enterprise. Yes, they're clearly trying to sell cloud services into their enterprise customers. Because small developers/consultancies have small pockets, and enterprises have large ones. It makes perfect sense as business strategy. But it requires understanding that you don't matter to them (you are not the main character…

Right but from big business customer perspective it is another cloud with way less available services than other clouds.

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by gyaru »

quectophoton wrote: post #252

Anyone here can comment on how good or bad is the support on OVH or Hetzner when opening a ticket? I'm taking this chance to move my VPSs to an Europe-based provider, and if possible I would prefer to choose based on how good their support is when something happens. I'm also open to different providers if anyone has a suggestion, preferably based in Europe.

As someone who has used both, Hetzner felt a bit more customer-friendly overall.

I've caused two issues that was my fault and Hetzner was willing to help out while OVH told me tough luck.

I accidentally picked the wrong option in OVH Cloud and picked the one month up-front option and quickly destroyed the VPS after, it was barely on for 1 minute but that was enough to demand 60 euros for me. Sure, my fault but it should've been obvious that it wasn't intentional.

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by adql »

echelon wrote: post #84
jay-barronville wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t tell you why you haven’t heard of Linode much, but yes, the Linode brand absolutely is well known. When I think Linode, I think developer, small consultancy, etc. When I think Akamai, I think enterprise. Completely different brands. It just seems like such a bizarre business decision to me for Akamai to throw a strong brand like that away just because they want to slap their name on the product instead. All i…

They're not the only ones. I consider myself up to date, and I had no idea Linode was in the VPS business. If I had to guess their mission, it sounds like Tailscale. [1] I've used Digital Ocean and all the big cloud providers. Vercel, Netlify, Heroku. Haven't touched Akamai, but I certainly know of it. [1] https://pixelastic.github.io/pokemonorbigdata/

> If I had to guess their mission, it sounds like Tailscale. [1]

Linode

Li Node

Linux Node

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by adql »

nwilkens wrote: post #64
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #14

What’s a good alternative for Linode these days? I just want a vps where I can install Debian, be root, and have a web and email server. A 4gb Linode has been enough for my needs for years.

https://mnx.io and would be happy to have you! We're a small team with great support -- since 2012.

You won't get many movers with 2x the price of L:inode for comparable instances...

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by adql »

Gelob wrote: post #51
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #14

What’s a good alternative for Linode these days? I just want a vps where I can install Debian, be root, and have a web and email server. A 4gb Linode has been enough for my needs for years.

Limestone networks https://lstn.net

At just double the price of Linode lmfao

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by alpaca128 »

dotancohen wrote: post #259
Hamuko wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Neither "Akamai’s cloud computing services" or "Akamai Connected Cloud" sound like viable names. Haven't we gotten pretty used to Amazon Web Services?

Not in the least. What we've gotten used to is "AWS". However "ACC" sounds more like a condition to avoid, rather than a service to use.

I think that only needs some time to get used to. ACC is less awkward to pronounce than AWS at least.

Re: Linode rebranded as Akamai’s cloud computing services

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Post by KyeRussell »

gibolt wrote: post #235
dachryn wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been with DigitalOcean for a very long time, their prices seem comparable to Linode, I always saw them marketed more or less the same. In fact, I don't even know why one would pick Linode over DigitalOcean or vice versa

I tried both, and stuck with DO. Linode UI was superclunky when you needed to dive into it, but DO was great. Any search for how to X immediately returned great documentation.

Is “DO documentation” in this instance referring to the knowledge base of (usually really poorly written) tutorials DO got people to write for them by offering them very paltry sums as some sort of SEO play?
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