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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Is this live? When will it be available?

It is for some, if you want to get to the sign up for beta page sooner, VPN into a server near Redmond/Seattle and you'll get it immediately. I learned this trick just a bit ago by curiosity. You'll still be on a waiting list, but you'll get to sign up for it sooner.

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Humanity never had a choice, I wonder what is the thought process of people that claim otherwise, like how did they get to that conclusion?

Humanity always has a choice. The part where we rarely even pause to remember that a choice exists is the problem. Achieving AGI feels as consequential as learning to split the atom. Something else we regularly wish we had not done. The fact that we are running headlong towards potential catastrophe does not at any point prevent us from realizing this and taking a step back. I just hope we actually do.

> Achieving AGI feels as consequential as learning to split the atom. Something else we regularly wish we had not done.

Who is wishing we didn't know how to split an atom?

Nuclear power is great and nuclear deterrence is a main reason that we have yet to see a WW3.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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bing.com/new is supposed to work from their slides, but may not be live yet.

Is anyone having success with the https://bing.com/new link? I'm not seeing it, but I'm not sure if that's because I'm on a Mac (via both Chrome and the OSX version of Edge)

VPN into a server close to Redmond/Seattle and you'll get it immediately.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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For paying the people that create the content on which this thing if built on top of they could implement the YouTube premium model.

Whenever ChatGPT uses something you wrote to answer a query they give you some cents based on how much content was stolen from you.

This would also encourage people to write more...

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Does it nag you constantly and do everything it can to steal data from you? I think lots of Microsoft products are now technically very good, but I don't like using them because they can't stop annoying me about stuff, and every time I turn my back are committing industrial espionage.

I get nagged more by google to use chrome whnvever you go to their sites in another browser.

This is what led me to slowly abandon my use of Google.

1/2 of the time I search google while not logged in, it asks me about logging in or creating an account.

About the same rate I get bothered logging into gmail using a non-chrome browser and they need to tell me I should experience Gmail with chrome.

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Not if Microsoft kills itself in the process? At best it's a Pyrrhic victory as both companies sink enormous infra costs to outdo one another. Worst case could be like Nokia acquisition debacle a decade ago when Microsoft desperately tried to re-break into mobile and failed. There was a HN thread on this a while ago where consensus was serving cost ~$0.03-0.05 PER query, which is absolutely huge. Adds more credence t…

It's hard for Google now i think. It has really bad reputation on many things, which are hard to re-earn. I myself no longer use Google search, and less Gmail (mostly for throwaway content). Google gonna have a hard time to earn reputation in their services. They lost the "trust" war.

Bing also has a bad reputation.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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The Edge integration announced today also looks very impressive. I chuckled at the thought that MS is probably about to make a daily Edge user out of me and a lot of other people, but of course Edge is Chrome under the hood now. So Google beat MS to browser market dominance, and now MS is using their browser as a platform to go after Google's core business. Neat. I think this tech is going to be transformative for ev…

Edge is genuinely very very good. It does have some dev tool problems that I've run into, but for browser it's top notch.

If you've got specific feedback they have a GitHub repo - https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/DevTools/issues/

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Most interesting tidbits: 1 - Sam Altman onstage all but confirmed the underlying LLM model as GPT-4 as he kept saying "next gen" without providing a name 2 - Microsoft is all-in by making this front-and-center of Bing, as well as deep integration into Edge browser I'm most curious about how Microsoft is planning to pay for the infrastructure cost of serving the traffic.

If it was GPT-4 he would have said it. There were, however, references to an updated GPT 3.5.
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