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Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri

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Re: Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri

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Post by japaneseminisub »

zinekeller wrote: post #204
mellavora wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, come on. Everyone knows about A3 and A5.

For Americans et al. who don't know: - A3 is (within physical tolerances, anyway) twice the size of A4 - A5 is half the size of A4 - A0 is the biggest size and and has an area of 1 square meter, although it is not a square but instead it has an aspect ratio of 1:sqrt(2) (technically all A-series papers have this aspect ratio because math says it is the aspect ratio that retains itself when halved) - In practical sens…

> technically all A-series papers have this aspect ratio because math says it is the aspect ratio that retains itself when halved

I never knew this, but that's awesome. Thanks for the info!

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Post by steveridout »

maxk42 wrote: post #60
okamiueru wrote: post #16

I never understand why someone in charge of making one specific simple choice, ends up making a remarkable dumb decision. Why, unless you are doing things unethically, would you go for a licensed font? It's not like this is a hard problem to solve more than adequately with open and more accessible alternatives.

Aside from licensing, usability studies show that serif fonts are more legible than sans serif fonts, so I have no idea where they came up with the idea that somehow they're harder to read for people with disabilities when all prior research I'm aware of has shown the opposite.

I thought the same thing. Surely it must be a function of the prevalence of these fonts though. In a hypothetical world where 90% of text you read is in sans serif I'd have to imagine that this would tilt the readability study results in sans serif's favor. I wonder if the studies attempt to control for this somehow?

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Post by tomrod »

robin_reala wrote: post #225
tomrod wrote: post #199

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Let me introduce a term to your venacular that will serve you well: 508 compliance.

Not sure I get your point?

[1] Disabilities may be broad, but it is incumbent upon our profession(s) to be inclusive.

[2] It is not pointless to work towards including folks who have a disability. More people than you realize have a form of disability. Ensuring our services and products are accessible is important, whether considered under a legal or an ethical lens.

Re: Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri

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Post by robin_reala »

tomrod wrote: post #263
robin_reala wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure I get your point?

[1] Disabilities may be broad, but it is incumbent upon our profession(s) to be inclusive. [2] It is not pointless to work towards including folks who have a disability. More people than you realize have a form of disability. Ensuring our services and products are accessible is important, whether considered under a legal or an ethical lens.

Right yes, agreed with all of that (I’ve been doing we accessibility for over two decades now), I just didn’t get what a US public sector code had to do with my point.

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Post by tssva »

garbagecoder wrote: post #254
tssva wrote: post #248

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Try pouring an imperial gallon into a us gallon container and then tell me I'm being overly pedantic. The names of the units are from the winchester system which is what predated both US customary units and Imperial units.

I didn't say "imperial gallon" I said "imperial system" which is both historically correct and what people colloquially call it. Yes, since we adopted those units the measures have changed repeatedly on both sides of the Atlantic. I get it.

The US customary units were 1st established prior to the imperial system existing so it is not historically correct to say they are based upon the imperial system.

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Post by tomrod »

robin_reala wrote: post #264
tomrod wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[1] Disabilities may be broad, but it is incumbent upon our profession(s) to be inclusive. [2] It is not pointless to work towards including folks who have a disability. More people than you realize have a form of disability. Ensuring our services and products are accessible is important, whether considered under a legal or an ethical lens.

Right yes, agreed with all of that (I’ve been doing we accessibility for over two decades now), I just didn’t get what a US public sector code had to do with my point.

> “Disabilities” is an extremely wide spectrum, and it’s pointless to try to group people on that scale.

Ignoring groupings of people who fall under the Disabilities umbrella often can result in lawsuits.

Re: Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri

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Post by kayfox »

Sebb767 wrote: post #255
ckwalsh wrote: post #129

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I really like this quote, but I can't find any reference to Adam Savage saying it. Closest I can find is his concept of "First Order Retrievability" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyCrHLYiGNo

> I really like this quote, but I can't find any reference to Adam Savage saying it. Maybe, instead of attributing the quote to someone who said it, they attributed the quote to someone who they'd think would've said it.

No, Adam Savage has said something to this effect every time he talks about how his shop is organized and why it shifts around over time. The gist of it is that while most of his tools and common materials are first order retrievable, but theres a whole world of stuff in the shop that can't, so he thinks about where it should be stored and puts it there or there are times when a particular tool or set of tools is always used with some other thing in the shop, so it lives next to that other thing rather than on some rack of the same tools. What is most likely happening is that its all been in videos of which no readily searchable transcript exists, and he is not always very concise about explaining his core practices, so finding the exact quote is non-trivial.
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