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This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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>The knowledge (and entertainment) I've been able to access thanks for randoms on YouTube is pretty incredible, and I sort of always just accepted the avalanche of spam and clickbait that came with it. Adblockers are amazing

Are there "influencer" blockers?

youtube lets you tell them channels you don't want recommended... I don't know how well it works, I usually just say I'm not interested in a single video

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#262

Still sounds pretty fake to me. There’s a hurriedness to the speech and a monotonic uniformity in enunciation that is uncannily machine. Good to know that voice actors will have jobs for a while longer…

The random voice generator is pretty bad but sometimes you actually get a reasonably good voice except you can hear clicking sounds that interrupt the voice.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#263

As someone working on singing synthesis, I know how hard it is to get that last 10% quality that makes a human listener instantly recognise if the voice is real or generated. These are really impressive results! For anyone interested, my team’s singing work: https://youtu.be/LPy20zSWhZA )

If you are going to have such an intensive particle effect in your videos at least bother to upload a 4k version so there is a tiny chance that not every single frame consists of nothing but artifacts.

Also don't put gumi and English in the same search query on YouTube. I don't know how they did it but the voices from six years ago sound better than SOTA TTS based on deep learning today...

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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I agree with this completely. Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. The most dangerous aspect of this is that each step seems relatively harmless: right now, ChatGPT and DALL-E are amusements, but each small step is building a monstrous and as yo…

There's no lack of revolutionary tech that has made life overall better with higher quality. Even like, a bic light is so much better quality than a flint and steel or fire sticks. Smart phones are fantastic quality computers that enable cool stuff like meeting up with friends without first having to leave a note at their house some amount of time beforehand Dishwashers and laundry machines and modern quality clothin…

Seems like for every advantage you list there's also a disadvantage.

> Even like, a bic light is so much better quality than a flint and steel or fire sticks.

And is part of the disposable society creating immense amounts of waste.

> Smart phones are fantastic quality computers that enable cool stuff like meeting up with friends without first having to leave a note at their house some amount of time beforehand

Smartphones reduce the quality of social interaction. People often check them when they should be paying attention to their friend, and they make cancelling last-minute easier thereby making people more flaky.

> Dishwashers and laundry machines and modern quality clothing let you avoid spending half your waking hours cleaning stuff, keeping us healthier, and enabling feminism

It's hard to argue with you there, though I suspect that all these "time-saving" inventions also make it more likely that we will spend more time on other things like more work and on electronic devices.

> Electricity lets us stay awake at night without smoke inhalation from candles and fireplaces, with less likelihood of burning the house down, and advanced tech in housing standards make sure that when the building does catch fire, you'll be able to get out safely

And electricity has also made it easier to stay awake at night, staying up later and reducing the quality of sleep. Hundreds of people get worse sleep by being exposed to devices at night. I think it's actually nice to wind down activities when the sun goes down though obviously that is not as easy in the latitudes closer to the pole.

Basically, I think there are a lot of hidden dangers that people accept because in the short term they don't realize that technology makes life less fulfilling.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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I agree with this completely. Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. The most dangerous aspect of this is that each step seems relatively harmless: right now, ChatGPT and DALL-E are amusements, but each small step is building a monstrous and as yo…

> Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. Technology evolves. Even if it may start with some low quality aspects, it doesn't need to stay that way. > People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. Which is just different communication, not better, nor worse in general. Of course this kinda suck…

> Which is just different communication, not better, nor worse in general.

That is where we disagree fundamentally. I do posit that the communication is actually absolutely and unequivocally worse.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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I agree with this completely. Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. The most dangerous aspect of this is that each step seems relatively harmless: right now, ChatGPT and DALL-E are amusements, but each small step is building a monstrous and as yo…

Why are you on a forum called Hacker News if you hate technology so much?

I don't hate all technology. Rather, I advocate a specific approach to technology, which is a cautious one. Such an approach is antithetical to the classic tech company, and so I hate the approach.

I don't believe all technology is bad. Rather, I believe that all technology needs to be handled in a specific way so that it does not overwhelm us. Though, I do believe that some technology is fundamentally evil.

I would consider myself a hacker, but I do not believe in the capitalistic approach to technology advancement for the sake of short-term profit. I think technology can be used wisely and I do not believe we are doing so.

In fact, I started out as a mathematician and programmer and I still appreciate the beauty of those fields, but I think we need to treat STEM knowledge like we treat knives: useful but dangerous.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with this completely. Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. The most dangerous aspect of this is that each step seems relatively harmless: right now, ChatGPT and DALL-E are amusements, but each small step is building a monstrous and as yo…

> Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. Technology evolves. Even if it may start with some low quality aspects, it doesn't need to stay that way. > People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. Which is just different communication, not better, nor worse in general. Of course this kinda suck…

> Technology is a tool, is can't be evil or good. It's up to the users how they handle it.

I fundamentally disagree with this premise. I believe evil is roughly equivalent to the inevitability of bringing about evil, and I believe AI falls under such a classification.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#269

As someone working on singing synthesis, I know how hard it is to get that last 10% quality that makes a human listener instantly recognise if the voice is real or generated. These are really impressive results! For anyone interested, my team’s singing work: https://youtu.be/LPy20zSWhZA )

If you are going to have such an intensive particle effect in your videos at least bother to upload a 4k version so there is a tiny chance that not every single frame consists of nothing but artifacts. Also don't put gumi and English in the same search query on YouTube. I don't know how they did it but the voices from six years ago sound better than SOTA TTS based on deep learning today...

Clearly the point of the video is its AUDIO content, not the visuals. The lack of a "4k version" does not make any difference other than saving you bandwith :-)

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

#270

I have only ever listened to one audio book and that was "Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" by Stephen Fry. This is nowhere close to that. It does mimic the ups and downs of voice but they don't add up. The don't make sense. They don't really have any connections with what is being spoken. But since it can do expressions, it probably only needs special markers in text to tell it how to really read a sentence.

Stephen Fry is considered one of the best audiobook readers of all time. This AI voice is still better than 100% of AI audiobooks in the market, and likely better than a good portion of HUMAN readers as well.
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