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England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by dheera »

gernb wrote: post #229
skybrian wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why? How many videos are you going to watch at the same time?

Everyone always thinks the current bandwidth is enough.... it never is. I have no idea what the future hold but a typical VR movie is ~20gig I'm not saying VR is going to take off but maybe streamed AR virtual presence might and it will require more bandwidth than today's video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7raHNfPc6A And even if that doesn't, something always comes up that needs more bandwidth.

This is also what worries me about fusion energy.

They say we'll have "unlimited" energy but it's really not unlimited, it can be petawatts but it's still finite, and people will invent new devices that will drain all of the fusion fuel as well instead of powering our current lifestyle.

People won't own cars, they'll fly themselves everywhere because it's "okay" to consume megawatts per person, and we'll end up draining all the oceans of their deuterium.

It's exactly what happened when oil was discovered, it was thought of as an "unlimited" energy source in the days of horses.

On the plus side fusion energy is carbon-clean, but its fuel is most certainly finite.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by uxcolumbo »

donatj wrote: post #160
habosa wrote: post #90

Some color about buying home internet in London vs San Francisco (in my experience). I recently moved back from London to San Francisco. In my 3 years in central London (N1) I had to use a 5g hotspot (thank you, Vodafone unlimited) to get anything close to fast internet in my flat. If I went with a wired "broadband" connection I could not get more than 10Mbps down. The street next to mine had gigabit fiber though. Th…

> I find a 1Gbps plan with a 500GB data cap hilarious This is how I ended up paying the extra $20 a month for unlimited data. I had 1TB cap on a 1Gbps connection. My wifes friend who was unemployed and staying us would put Netflix shows on for ambiance all day as she wandered about the house (not even watching it!) - streaming 4k Netflix ate up serious data pretty quickly and I got quite a few overage charges. It's j…

What a waste. Did you mention it to her? Why not just put the radio on or at least don’t stream in 4k.

I wonder how many are like her, just leaving it on all day for ambience and what the carbon footprint is.

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Post by uxcolumbo »

alias_neo wrote: post #171
agilob wrote: post #119

Just more admin fees and paperwork to build a building, making them more expensive. Make 30cm insulation a requirement so we don't pay £2000 per year for electric heating. I asked my property management company if they would, eghm, _consider_ improving external insulation, they responded they have no such legal requirements, so they won't. We pay 4x more for heating and warm water than in 2018, and have it colder and…

Insulation is pretty good in new build flats. I bought a new build in London where I lived for 5 years, I used the heating all of about 10 days in 5 years, the gas bill was a rounding error; what they really need it cooling; that place was 38°C in my living room with all windows and doors open in the summer. To put that into perspective, I just moved to a 1930s house where I'm paying £600-800 a month for the heating…

£800 per month? That seems a lot for a family home, even during these times. And that’s only for gas, electricity excluded?

How big is the house and is there zero insulation, eg single pane windows?

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Post by defrost »

kaapipo wrote: post #264

England is different from the UK. Original title says "the UK", so why not use that?

There are two laws of interest here [1] (in the original authoritive source .gov.uk release)

One law applies to both England and Wales (not to Cornwall, Scotland, or Northern Ireland).

The other applies to England alone.

Neither applies to the whole of the United Kingdom.

[1] https://www.gov.uk/government/news/millions-of-homeowners-an...

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Post by drstewart »

dang wrote: post #216
drstewart wrote: post #25

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Post by habosa »

dmitryminkovsky wrote: post #101
habosa wrote: post #90

Some color about buying home internet in London vs San Francisco (in my experience). I recently moved back from London to San Francisco. In my 3 years in central London (N1) I had to use a 5g hotspot (thank you, Vodafone unlimited) to get anything close to fast internet in my flat. If I went with a wired "broadband" connection I could not get more than 10Mbps down. The street next to mine had gigabit fiber though. Th…

How was the 5G hotspot though?

It was great. £50/month and I used 1TB of data with no throttling. Two people working from home full time. Only occasionally slow. Not great latency though.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

icelancer wrote: post #122
xbmcuser wrote: post #10

I think this comes across as shocking to Americans but the thing is the rest of the world treats internet as a utility so most governments try to get cheap and fast internet for as large a portion of the population as possible. Where as US cities and towns are stuck under its isp corporate monopolies.

Australia and Canada famously have awesome, fast, and cheap Internet access compared to the United States.

/s missing, right?
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