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Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by prepend »

seattle_spring wrote: post #246
spacemadness wrote: post #222

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This is why I went back to hotels. Airbnb is a scummy company and can’t seem to survive without out of control “gotcha” fees added by either itself or its hosts which now make many hotels cheaper. I also am not obligated to do work for the host with a hotel. Some of the hosts have become super entitled over the years due to Airbnbs policies. It’s a shame as using Airbnb was an excellent experience when it first began…

I’ve stayed in 100+ Airbnbs and literally never have paid or been asked to pay an extra fee. I have, however, been surprised several times by hotels charging an extra “resort fee” upon arrival.

You’ve never had to pay a cleaning fee?

Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by into_infinity »

rootusrootus wrote: post #184
x86x87 wrote: post #166

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I'm gonna disagree with this one. People chose to put uo with HOAs because 1) most new developments have them 2) SFH w/ HOA are more expensive

For every HOA that gets a Reddit post complaining about unreasonable behavior, there's a dozen others that just effectively keep people from turning their front yard into a wrecking yard, and probably a hundred others that don't enforce anything at all but just keep the common areas mowed.

One of the problems is that you don't know what you're buying. You might end up with a reasonable HOA or a terrible one. Even if it looks reasonable today, it might change tomorrow.

Another problem is that HOAs are the worst possible size of a government. They're large enough that you're in the minority, but small enough that they don't have anything else to preoccupy themselves with but how you're using your own property.

I've heard that "just imagine what kinds of horrors happen without HOAs" argument many times over, but... I live in the Bay Area in a densely-packed but older neighborhood without a HOA, and I'm yet to witness the terrible consequences of my neighbors' supposed recklessness. Yeah, the houses are painted in different colors and picket fences have different styles and heights, but I think I can live with that.

Most people are reasonable. When you bump into people who are truly unreasonable, a HOA is unlikely to save you. How peaceful and pretty a neighborhood is depends largely on socioeconomic factors (not just wealth, but also the prevalence of problems such as addiction). It just so happens that many new and expensive neighborhoods have HOAs, but that doesn't mean that HOAs are to be credited for good outcomes - or that they will be able to prevent the decline of such communities if the economic climate changes.

Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by nibbleshifter »

thefounder wrote: post #120
colordrops wrote: post #100

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Is there a big tech company that people brag about working at anymore?

Apple(if they would be allowed to)

The Apple employees at the nearby Apple campus are very open about working there when you meet them socially.

Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by w1nst0nsm1th »

_gabe_ wrote: post #42

I had something similar happen on Amazon. I bought a pair of winter gloves then got a letter a week later in the mail offering me $30 (twice what I paid) if I left a 5 star reviews. The letter even left a message at the bottom saying not to post a review with a picture of the letter! That annoyed me, so of course I posted a review with a picture of the letter, then Amazon rejected the review since it didn't review th…

I bought a pair of Doc Martens shoes (the old classic ones) from amazon before discovering doc marteens had its own selling website. I bought a second pair there after 2 weeks not seeing the one I ordered on amazon, the very same model which made Doc Marteens famous around the world.

They both arrived the very same day.

From the seller addresses on the package, I could know which pair were coming from Doc Marteens website and which pair were coming from the amazon seller.

I put the pairs side by side to compare them.

At first sight, you couldn't tell the differences, but once you got close it was very clear there were not the sames : - The laces were thinner on the fake one. - The leather were thinner on the fake one. - The sole were differents, with different markts and scripture. - The logo at the back of the shoes was very badly reproduced.

The amazon seller had recorded an obviously fake address situated in New York city. The front of the address on google map was a store which has nothing to do with shoes or clothing business.

I posted a review telling the shoes were fake and the seller was selling counterfeit products and had posted a fake address.

Amazon informed me 24 hours later they had removed my review because I didn't stitch to only review the shoes.

Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by dzhiurgis »

adesanmi wrote: post #149
cycrutchfield wrote: post #61

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Why do you care so intensely about this? Edit: I should have expanded on my post a bit. It's quite obvious that the review was flagged by some ML model, most likely not because the reviewer is a liar but probably because the host has a high prior for shenanigans. Combined with the lack of social signals for the reviewer, I could see why an ML model might be overzealous. But back to my original question: nobody is bei…

Because a huge amount of value in AirBnB is its reviews. That’s how you’re supposed to know where is worth staying and where isn’t. If those can’t be trusted, then it’s an inferior B&B platform with doctored reviews that you can’t trust. My advice to those reading this is just to get a hotel unless there is no alternative. AirBnB was fine for a bit when it was cheaper than alternatives, but, in my experience, it’s no…

> Because a huge amount of value in AirBnB is its reviews.

Reviews that you can’t leave unless other party reviewed you which self censors whenever there’s a slightest disagreement

See reviews for same places on booking.com and they are consistently 1 star less

Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by prepend »

irjustin wrote: post #208
elmerfud wrote: post #8

Airbnb removed my positive review and accused me of being in cahoots with the host to leave positive feedback. They said they have found an existing relationship between me and the host. Mind you have no social media accounts, this was my first stay at an Airbnb, I'm from USA and this was in Medellin Colombia, I usually stay at Marriott hotels and I only went with Airbnb because the girl I traveled with suggested usi…

To be fair, gamifcation of reviews is a very real problem. There's no good answer to this. Anyone that allows/relies on direct consumer feedback is at risk for one of the hardest problems that exist. Personally, I want to know people's great and real experiences, or terrible ones, who wouldn't!? But, once you tie it to money, it's over.

I wish I could post the review on my own site and users could easily discover it when browsing items. That makes me develop and risk a reputation.

I don’t trust sites like Airbnb and I understand how sites have problems with review fraud.

If I posted with a unique signature then over time people could learn that mine aren’t fake.

Also would be nice to know that the Airbnb reviewer also rated a restaurant and some headphones, etc.

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Post by seattle_spring »

_vertigo wrote: post #125
thefounder wrote: post #104

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You can always book a hotel. AirBNB will not and cannot provide you a 100% care free experience because some guests are indeed liars and there are all sorts of scams both on the guest and host side. It's a kind of ebay. It's always a hit or miss.

If that’s the case, all the more reason to be mad at Airbnb for removing legitimate reviews.

I'd much rather have one legit review removed for every 20 fake one, rather than have to wade through 20 fake reviews just to find a single authentic one.

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Post by edmundsauto »

irjustin wrote: post #243
grugagag wrote: post #234

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It seems like Airbnb is doing the gamification and manipulating it as well. I’d rather all reviews stay, good and bad and let the consumer decide for themselves. As soon as some reviews get promoted and others hidden I stop paying attention to them

> I’d rather all reviews stay, good and bad and let the consumer decide for themselves That's not a realistic solution. If all the reviews were fake 5 stars but it's just the property's friends always leaving reviews then when you got there, you feel there's no way it's 5 stars. But less obvious is property manager says, hey i'll give you a 5% discount for 5 stars, when really the place was a 3-star at best. Those sh…

Is there anything currently in place that prevents the 5% off situation? Seems like nobody is able to solve that one. Or wants to tackle it.

Airbnb is incentivized to have higher scores because lower ratings might not push people to other properties - it might discourage them from booking all together. They need them to not be totally worthless, but score inflation is definitively in their best interest.

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