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Amazon confirms corporate staff cuts that could hit 10k employees

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Re: Amazon confirms corporate staff cuts that could hit 10k employees

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Context: I recently left Amazon Some orgs within the company are fairly lean, some are hugely bloated. Amazon isn't homogeneous. For example, Alexa is very over-resourced and it's common to hear about 4+ teams working on slight variations of the same project. Lots of redundancy there. I believe Alexa as an org is losing $5b+ per year. Contrast that to all the criticism Facebook is receiving for their investment into…

Unlike Facebook Alexa was somewhat successful. See Alexa microwaves, cars, TVs, etc.. It looks like Amazon also knows when to move on vs. Meta.

From what I heard, and this was years ago, it is a very resource intensive service to actually run. Given how little I have personally used my Alexa to make or inform actual purchases, I suspect it unfortunately doesnt actually earn much.

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And how much is Bezos worth? If your company is posting profits and executives are rolling in unprecedented piles of money there's no excuse for layoffs.

No excuse? Really? You don’t want to dial that back a notch and acknowledge the pending recession and the rash of over hiring in the tech market? And perhaps you’ve forgotten, Bezos isn’t CEO any more and doesn’t have anything to do with day to day Amazon.

I did forget that. Doesn't change things too much.

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Could you help explain why the general consensus seems to consider Amazon as a just given backup and easy interview path (but the hard part is the actual job crunch apparently)? They still do leetcode screening don’t they? IMO they’ve been harder than the others because the process is so automated that you either pass or fail on the code test. There’s no tech interviewer to give you a hint unless they changed that re…

“You either memorized the solution to the random leetcode problem you get or you fail as far as I understand it.” No? You can actually use code to solve problems. Don’t buy into the defeatism surrounding leetcode interviews.

Meh. I used to compete on CS and Math problems and I passed the interview for a lot of big tech companies (senior and staff levels) and I don't think at any of them I could pass the interview if I truly had never seen even a variation of the problem I was given.

They want you to work pretty fast and you only have about 20 minutes to solve one problem at most companies, no way I could work my way through something completely new that quickly.

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Why do severance packages exist? I like the concept, and I appreciate it’s a standard practice and in some cases the law. But what’s the logic behind them?

Imagine if you're a worker considering Amazon and you heard they paid no severance. I'd be looking elsewhere...

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> They still do leetcode screening don’t they? I mean that's a big part of what makes it so easy. Near zero "culture fit" or anything random you just need to solve easy problems.

Our training material explicitly excludes culture fit questions or decisions since it is a source of bias.

What is culture other than the shared set of beliefs that you agree to work with? LP questions are culture fit questions. What’s excluded are things that go beyond that, for example “how do you feel about drinks with coworkers?”

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> They still do leetcode screening don’t they? I mean that's a big part of what makes it so easy. Near zero "culture fit" or anything random you just need to solve easy problems.

Our training material explicitly excludes culture fit questions or decisions since it is a source of bias.

who is "our"?

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Could you help explain why the general consensus seems to consider Amazon as a just given backup and easy interview path (but the hard part is the actual job crunch apparently)? They still do leetcode screening don’t they? IMO they’ve been harder than the others because the process is so automated that you either pass or fail on the code test. There’s no tech interviewer to give you a hint unless they changed that re…

“You either memorized the solution to the random leetcode problem you get or you fail as far as I understand it.” No? You can actually use code to solve problems. Don’t buy into the defeatism surrounding leetcode interviews.

When a company optimises for something so unrelated to the eventual job, it becomes anti-correlated with success.

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I found this comment from an anonymous tech industry insider interesting: "Amazon is very, very bloated. So there's lots of people there but they're not providing a lot of value so they're first on the chopping block." This is counter to what I have heard about Amazon, which is that it is a ruthless environment where low performers are stack ranked out of the company. Does anyone have any insight?

I haven't worked at Amazon, but my experience with the world of "pip" culture is that it only really appears when value is difficult to define, which is strong evidence of bloat. Every time you hear a story of someone at Amazon being pip'd it always comes as a surprise to the IC and, most importantly, they don't know how to avoid it. This doesn't happen in a world where creating value is well defined. For example in…

You cannot put a dollar value to every bit of work that happens in a company.

What is the value of managers? What is the value of research? What is the value of procurement/ hr? What is the value of IT and internal support tools?

None of these individually provide value, but remove one and the company will collapse.

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