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iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

warning26 wrote: post #229
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #115

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By the way I know this is not your point, but there are excellent editing options for zero dollars! Which, I suppose X=0 is valid for your comment. https://www.rawtherapee.com/

Ehh...RawTherapee (and also Darktable) are certainly capable of editing, but I've found that in practice they require far more effort to get results comparable to Adobe or Capture One's RAW processing.

This makes sense. I run Linux and have no interest in adobe software. It does seem like sometimes it’s tricky to use RawTherapee, but so far I’ve been happy with the results. I got a used Canon Pro 100 photo printer and I’ve been printing 13x19” (A3+) photos edited with RawTherapee. I’m not using it professionally or anything, but I’ve been very happy with it for my use!

Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by prawn »

I upgraded from an Xs Max to a 14 partway through a road trip this year. The massive difference between these phones is in video (and particularly stabilisation) but I’ve also enjoyed the 0.5 and 2-3x options on the camera.

I haven’t had enough wifi to backup to iCloud and free up space to work in raw/48MP, but you can see the sorts of shots here with the stock app and 12MP.

http://instagram.com/isaacforman/

I am carrying a GoPro, an Osmo Pocket, an Insta360 Go 2, two drones and the two phones - the 14 is the one I used as a priority because the quality and options were so good.

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Post by bee_rider »

dylan604 wrote: post #155
qbasic_forever wrote: post #133

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You can shoot in raw on iphones now to prevent this or fix it later.

Thanks, but now doesn't do me any good then

The sun will come up tomorrow, there was a whole song about it.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by ISL »

dylan604 wrote: post #104
majormajor wrote: post #75

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Mine don't (iPhone 13 Pro Max, Fuji XT-2 and various lenses). They do in daylight, sure, but things like sunrise/sunset or unusual colors throw them off like crazy. Textures can also throw them off - "amplification" of the texture effect, almost. They also suffer a bit zoomed in. The post-processing fixes a lot of problems of older phone cameras but it has its limits. On good camera hardware there's very little that…

I hate when you get one of those amazing sunsets where the whole sky changes color, but the phone auto-correct removes/corrects the color tone.

Turn off auto white balance and set it to "daylight", problem solved.

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Post by sudosysgen »

speedgoose wrote: post #260
sudosysgen wrote: post #97

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I've tried it with an iPhone 13 and an older camera with significantly worse low light performance than any camera from the past 7 years, and even if I disable the built-in image stacking, the mirrorless camera with an f/1.4 lens is incomparably better. I could properly expose my backyard with nothing but light pollution handheld. Newer cameras can even film video with nothing but moonlight.

Which camera is it? My old X100T is a complete mess in extreme low light conditions and I don’t remember things to have improved much in the following years.

An A7ii with a Sigma EF 85mm f/1.4 (incidentally the whole set up used is about half the price of an iPhone 14 Pro).

The X100T is a great camera for the experience, but it kinda sucks for low-light. If you want good low-light performance, then image stabilization is a must and full-frame with a lens faster than F2 makes a huge difference too. In the end I can hand-hold comfortably at 1/4th of a second, and the camera itself takes in 4x more light, so low light performance is much better than on an X100T.

I can upload the pictures I'm talking about later today, if you want.

Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by javajosh »

city17 wrote: post #152

The funny thing is that for all the amazing technological improvements discussed, all the pictures in the article actually show that A. having a photographer who knows how to frame things, and sees the right moment to capture an image, and B. having a subject worthwhile photographing, are way more important than having a top tier quality camera.

When he writes, "I took the iPhone 14 Pro on a trip around San Francisco and Northern California, to the remote Himalayas and mountains of the Kingdom of Bhutan, and Tokyo.", my first thought was: who IS this person? And is this article even at all real?

Re: iPhone 14 Pro camera review: A small step, a huge leap

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Post by bawolff »

theturtletalks wrote: post #100
sp332 wrote: post #76

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I think Nikkor assumes that you would use software to do the post processing. It gives you something a lot closer to what's coming from the sensor, so you can choose which $XXX image editing suite you want to run it through. The iPhone knows the vast majority of people won't do that with their photos, so they can go all-out, but you're stuck with their specific result baked in to your photo.

Apple has always been about making the choice for it’s users. Jobs always thought giving users too many options was problematic.

And honestly history has mostly vindicated him.

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Post by bcraven »

blululu wrote: post #250
city17 wrote: post #152

The funny thing is that for all the amazing technological improvements discussed, all the pictures in the article actually show that A. having a photographer who knows how to frame things, and sees the right moment to capture an image, and B. having a subject worthwhile photographing, are way more important than having a top tier quality camera.

Is this serious? Some of the side by sides are totally blacked out vs beautifully lit. The improvements in cameras open up the possibility of taking shots that would have simply not been possible. Sure photography is a skill. The realtime feedback on a smartphone might actually be the most significant improvement that smartphone has made to the camera. But discounting the obvious improvements in sensing an processing…

"Some of the side by sides are totally blacked out vs beautifully lit."

Those are the side-by-side examples to show the raw file latitude.

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Post by appletrotter »

speedgoose wrote: post #73
appletrotter wrote: post #26

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Which is why DSLRs are for hobbyists and professionals. It's more work, for a reward. Or for people shooting at night. The sensors are too small on phones to gather enough light to look decent.

The sensors are small but the software is good. Night photography is easy on a recent smartphone and you don’t even need a tripod.

Yeah as other commenters have pointed out, it’s night and day (no pun) between dark shots on DSLRs and phones.

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Post by appletrotter »

mkaic wrote: post #231
unethical_ban wrote: post #183

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Clearly, many people enjoy taking /good/ photos that look great /quickly/. The point being made is, if Apple/Google can do that with a tiny sensor, why hasn't one of the remaining pro camera companies thrown money into similar work to be done on their cameras? I have an olympus e-om10 (I can't even remember the name format) and it has some filter settings, but nothing with the usability and quick results of Apple and…

This was exactly the point I was trying to make. If a "real camera" manufacturer like Canon, Nikon, BlackMagic, etc. stepped up and added Apple-tier processing as an option to their cameras, I'd choose that over an iPhone any day. It frustrates me that the best computational photography in the world is being done using small sensors and tiny lenses, but since no DSLR manufacturer has matched Apple's computational wit…

That’s because the professionals do all this “computational photography” on a laptop or something. That way they get to have a little more creative input into it too. There’s like a billion desktop apps to get any sort of processing you want done on a shot.

DSLRs aren’t good if you want “point and click,” and that’s okay.

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