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Re: My dad's resume and skills from 1980

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Post by intelVISA »

dkurth wrote: post #197
zackmorris wrote: post #142

If the minimalist resume is appealing, can we also bring back walk-on hiring? In warehouse and construction work, if someone shows up at 7:30 AM on a Monday morning, odds are quite good that the foreman will have something for them to do. Maybe not that day, but maybe tomorrow, or maybe someone on the list above them won't show up that week and they'll get called. I made rent doing that in my early 20s and they even…

As Seymour Cray said, "The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it's too late." It can be months (at a high salary) before you really know whether a hire is likely to work out. I think it makes sense to invest more effort in screening applicants in this case.

"The trouble with programmers is that you can never tell what a programmer is doing until it's too late."

the meta-halting problem

Re: My dad's resume and skills from 1980

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Post by dottedmag »

ingenieros wrote: post #207
snowwrestler wrote: post #192

Caught my eye: Listing gender, height, health on the resume (!) Can’t imagine getting a resume with that info these days. Listing corporate training under education. Again, wouldn’t expect to see that today. Not sure if that is because no one does employee training anymore, OR, if it’s just expected and understood that you’ll learn new stuff constantly as a programmer these days.

Perhaps not in the U.S due to labor laws and the EEOC, but in some countries you must also attach a head shot. Not only that, but HR can casually drop by your house unannounced to inspect your living conditions and make a note of anything "unusual". I know it sounds straight out of Severance, but that's how things would be stateside if unions and others hadn't drawn the line somewhere.

What are the countries where this is practiced?

Re: My dad's resume and skills from 1980

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Post by VancouverMan »

UncleOxidant wrote: post #225
time_to_smile wrote: post #204

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> bring back walk-on hiring? This make sense for highly productive labor, that foreman hiring people for just showing up generally got a positive expected return for this. In fact, this is still how a lot of (sometimes illegal) day labors go about getting work: truck comes by, picks up people ready for work, work get done and everyone makes money. > Why again does boutique startup need to interview 500 overqualified…

> Most of my labor has gone to waste. More projects than not never ultimately shipped Same here and I've been in the biz for ~35 years. An architect can drive around a city and point to buildings he designed. It's a bit disillusioning to think that the vast majority of the work I've done has just sort of disappeared because either a startup didn't make it or got swallowed up into a larger organization that had other…

> An architect can drive around a city and point to buildings he designed.

I don't think that the situation is really that much different for building architects.

In cities that are experiencing rapid densification, it's not unusual to see numerous buildings from the 1950s, if not much later, being demolished to make way for newer and larger structures.

Even when structures aren't totally demolished, it's not unusual for them to be so extensively modified that the original building is virtually unrecognizable, or even completely obscured by the work of other architects.

It's also quite common for building projects to be canceled before construction starts, but after designs have been prepared, and other architectural work performed.

Many projects that do eventually get built often go through numerous revisions, with the final product being almost nothing like the earlier designs.

Re: My dad's resume and skills from 1980

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Post by LtWorf »

AlbertCory wrote: post #190
rr888 wrote: post #175

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Sounds like you dont have a culture where docs with "2022 Budget FINAL v2 - my copy (3).xls" aren't normal :)

No, indeed I don't. So enlighten me, since I don't use Word much: if you mark your resume "Final" and a headhunter wants to "improve" it, what do they need to do?

Unmark it? :D

In some pdf readers there is an option "respect limitations"… by disabling it you can print even when print is disallowed and so on. I guess it's the same with word documents.

Re: My dad's resume and skills from 1980

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

yamtaddle wrote: post #158
enw wrote: post #97

> My dad is 92 and we just put him in a home. Can you stay healthy enough to die of old age in a regular home? “Put him in a home” sounds so ominous and forceful.

Dementia and/or serious motor issues will mess that up every time, unless you've got a close family member who's willing and able to be a full-time caregiver for years on end. But sure, some people avoid that through some combo of luck, genes, and clean living. Or just die before it becomes an issue, I guess.

Yeah, my grandma has dementia, can't walk without assistance, and basically just shits herself all the time. She lives with my mom, but she doesn't have the energy or mental fortitude to be the full-time caretaker she needs. She wants to put her in a caretaking facility, but just doesn't have the energy to research options, not to mention the money. She wants to call my uncle and ask him to pay for it (Grandma and the uncle are on my dad's side, but my dad passed 3 years ago), but has basically been avoiding making that call.

> Or just die before it becomes an issue, I guess.

If I ever get to the point where I'm no longer living, but merely surviving the way my grandma is, I'd sign a DNR and make it my solution.

Re: My dad's resume and skills from 1980

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Post by Prcmaker »

rmnclmnt wrote: post #6

Can we bring back this form of resume, please? Information is clearly organized, easy to read, easy to remember. No need for 5-star skills ratings, dual-colored backgrounds, unreadable fonts, and whatnot...

I'm a big fan of these. I maintain both a simple text resume, and a 'fancy' one in a pretty latex template. I've gotten jobs from both, and have even (successfully) submitted both in separate parts of the same job application. Sometimes people want to see the 5 star skill ratings, though I'll never understand why, but having it as an option has unfortunately helped.

Re: My dad's resume and skills from 1980

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Post by nsxwolf »

scruple wrote: post #236
nsxwolf wrote: post #162

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Well, I don't think there's necessarily anything "wrong" with it (It's actually from my own resume), I just cringe when I read it. It reminds me that I operate within a world obsessed with jargon and eye-roll inducing business speak. It all feels so unnatural to me.

When I see things like that on a resume I instinctively smell bullshit. Right or wrong, that's my reaction. "Proven?" Show me the proof. "High-quality and performant?" I better not be able to quickly and easily find end users complaining about your companies software.

There's so much suspicion in this industry. Is it so in other industries? We see a 20 year work history, and we assume you must be lying so we LeetCode you in front of a couple recent college grads. And now we're going to go after end user complaints as well?

I guess its good I work on the back end, I can always blame poor user experience on the front end and "UX" people.

Re: My dad's resume and skills from 1980

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Post by tech_tuna »

azangru wrote: post #134
tech_tuna wrote: post #115

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It's funny, you don't hear much about the Python/Ruby war anymore. Python was more of a general purpose language and had decent web frameworks (Django and Flask primarily). Ruby's main claim to fame was, and still is, Rails. Rails has lost a bit of steam over the years, partly due to node.js and the microservice revolution, so to speak. If anything, Sinatra is a better fit for microservices and yes, sure microservice…

Ruby was very much general-purpose. Homebrew was written in Ruby. Vagrant was written in Ruby.

True, but Python became more popular as a general purpose language. For example, Python starting shipping in most Linux distributions sometime in the late 2000s, Ruby did not.

I didn't mean to imply that Ruby isn't or can't be a general purpose language.

Re: My dad's resume and skills from 1980

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

LtWorf wrote: post #259
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #222

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Interesting. Almost nothing I've done as a programmer since 1985 seems automated today. What do you mean by "fully automated" ?

No? You had valgrind to find memory bugs in 1985?

I would not consider that "full automated", but YMMV.
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