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Re: Dutch employee fired by U.S. firm for shutting off webcam awarded €75K in court

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Post by memcg »

P5fRxh5kUvp2th wrote: post #241
memcg wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article also states that he was "telemarketing worker" without much detail about his job duties. Was the company already recording his screen and voice (if applicable) interactions with customers?

from the article > The telemarketing worker replied back two days later, “I don't feel comfortable being monitored for 9 hours a day by a camera. This is an invasion of my privacy and makes me feel really uncomfortable. that's the reason why my camera isn't on. You can already monitor all activities on my laptop and I am sharing my screen.”

That does not answer the question regarding interacting with customers.

Re: Dutch employee fired by U.S. firm for shutting off webcam awarded €75K in court

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Post by jacooper »

mjan22640 wrote: post #236
hallway_monitor wrote: post #199

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Better yet, shouldn't we just make everything free for everyone? Housing costs are outrageous. It would be great if houses were free. And food too. And cars and clothing. I guess the only problem is then everyone's wage would have to be $0 as well.

The automation is going to bring that relatively soon.

Yup Automation is going to push humans out of Capitalism to the point it where Capitalism ends it self.

Re: Dutch employee fired by U.S. firm for shutting off webcam awarded €75K in court

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Post by mjan22640 »

phpisthebest wrote: post #141
bbbobbb wrote: post #137

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sorry what extra work? you know the company is able to hire more people right?

You know companies have budgets right? you can not just "hire more people" and remain profitable, no profit no company. Companies are not charities created to employ people. So sure if only 1 person is off on leave most likely another person could be hired But 5 years of protected leave..... What percentage of the work force is going to be out on that? Also since it is very hard to terminate someone in the EU, what h…

> Parental leave should be measured in weeks, not years.

slavery ended thousands years ago

Re: Dutch employee fired by U.S. firm for shutting off webcam awarded €75K in court

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Post by malshe »

unity1001 wrote: post #256
outside1234 wrote: post #195

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Which is why you make 50% less by the way. Not dumping on the laws, which I think are great, and are probably worth it overall, but there is a cost.

> Which is why you make 50% less by the way They make 50% less. And they don't have to pay $1000 per head for private insurance, more for other insurance, $3000/month for being able to be a roommate in a 30 m2 apartment. Also they have disability, reasonable retirement, paid vacations and everything that are pretty much nonexistent for American employees.

If you use some extreme examples then sure living in the US can be very expensive. But for most of us the things are not this bad. I am a professor and even with the academic pay I save about 30% of my salary even after paying all the expenses. The key is to live in a lower cost US state where the salaries are still quite high compared to most of the world.

Re: Dutch employee fired by U.S. firm for shutting off webcam awarded €75K in court

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Post by BlargMcLarg »

phpisthebest wrote: post #191
BlargMcLarg wrote: post #177

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Of course that would work, but that requires the economy to not adapt itself to the new prices, which requires politicians to step in and prevent the richer people from buying up things which makes would-be families feel too uneasy about starting a family. It'd be far more desirable to return to situations where most of the budget is spent on luxury and only a little is spent on any kind of milestone, but that's a ca…

>> which requires politicians to step in Ironically politicians "stepping in" is the biggest reason cost of living is going up. Regulations preventing new housing, limiting new housing, etc. Monetary policies and massive debt fueled spending spree's causing massive inflation, draconian lock downs disrupting supply chains, irresponsible "climate" policies preventing farmers from growing food affordably, the 100's of o…

Bad regulations by a slow, bureaucratic government do that, yes. Meanwhile, the free market people always claim will solve everything? That same free market "solved" mobility by pushing car usage through the roof, resulting in extremely inefficient space usage now that population demands are changing.

Neither bad regulations nor the free market are going to solve a lack of foresight. Worse, those regulations are largely devised by politicians in power voted by a majority of homeowners and a few ultra rich lobbyists. You might as well make a "always has been" meme out of it.

Same goes for every other of your points. If free market capitalism would solve it, it already would have.

Re: Dutch employee fired by U.S. firm for shutting off webcam awarded €75K in court

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Post by dingosity »

Kind of weird that the website hosting a story about intrusive spying has a cookie policy that essentially says "we're going to set a cookie to track you around the intarwebs and you can't opt out of it."

One more site to add to the memory hole.

Re: Dutch employee fired by U.S. firm for shutting off webcam awarded €75K in court

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Post by daniel-cussen »

galangalalgol wrote: post #235
O__________O wrote: post #174

From Glassdoor for related employer: https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Chetu-Reviews-E231082.htm >> Review: “You'll discover during training week that the the company will watch over you all day, even long tenured employees are watched via their WebCam.” >> “Glassdoor Alert: Attempt to Inflate Reviews — We have evidence that someone has taken steps to artificially inflate the rating for this employer with positive re…

Between this, and them shuttering any official EU accounts or presence after the award, I really foubt they will pay the award, and it seems unlikely they were contributing or collecting any taxes related to the employment.

No post body was provided.

Re: Dutch employee fired by U.S. firm for shutting off webcam awarded €75K in court

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Post by P5fRxh5kUvp2th »

memcg wrote: post #261
P5fRxh5kUvp2th wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

from the article > The telemarketing worker replied back two days later, “I don't feel comfortable being monitored for 9 hours a day by a camera. This is an invasion of my privacy and makes me feel really uncomfortable. that's the reason why my camera isn't on. You can already monitor all activities on my laptop and I am sharing my screen.”

That does not answer the question regarding interacting with customers.

>Was the company already recording his screen and voice (if applicable)

The answer is yes.

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