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Mandated diversity statement drives Jonathan Haidt to quit academic society
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That's not what I wrote. I said he was already a popular figure whose views should be publicly refuted. The fact that he later became a presidential contender isn't Yale's fault, but rather the unfortunate result of a lack of willingness to let the bad ideas see themselves out the door. > "Haters in the end bury themselves if you let them talk" - Jonathan Rauch https://youtu.be/E0T9XSG73kY?t=3083
He was challenged by most, but not all, newspapers. It clearly didn't work as we're still dealing with the same BS 60 years later. But sure, the real problem is Psychologists trying to adress systematic racism in their field. That's worth resigning about. Because they're trying to hide the truth, but also we should let them speak, in our academic Psychological publications, because it's obvious nonsense.
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#263The irony of “anti racism” is that its core goal of racial preferences is one championed mainly by white elite administrators. Let’s be clear: most minorities oppose explicit racial preferences, including Black people: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/05/08/america... In a recent example, the California ballot measure that would have legalized racial preferences in the state failed overwhelmingly, inclu…
It could be described as thinly veiled white supremacy.
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#264The article doesn't quote or link to the policy in question, seems difficult to get a neutral point of view without actually reading the changes to the policy.
Edit: the link was in the sixth paragraph, but it's much less damning than the article frames it.
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This is the Motte and Bailey technique. Attacking "Political Correctness" in a vague and non-specific way lets you sound noble. As soon as you specify what that means in practice you just sound like a nasty bully (at best), so best leave that implied. But a quick glance as the history of social science that these things are a direct response to, would reveal people "proving" that various groups are inferior in ways t…
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One might respond along the lines of: "why are we investing in ways to operationalize a concept of 'superiority' in the first place?"
The long lesson from the history of this research is that it produces garbage wrapped in a thin veneer of credibility, and becomes a weapon to justify or deepen real existing problems. It doesn't matter if it gets debunked eventually, the problem is how it is used now."
edit: (I don't know that I'm happy with either pole in this debate, but it seems like a good thing to worry about)
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> one groups aims are to destroy open and civil discourse So you beat them to it?
That's the paradox of tolerance.
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There is no nuance in this debate. Roger made those statements in 1982. The only access to broad public announcement was via TV, controlled by private companies for the most part. Today platforms have the same choices about what to air or not. Free Speech is also about not forcing people to say things they do not want, it is also about not forcing platforms to broadcast lies. These are not the same thing.
That is a lot of fancy words in favor of suppression.
Those people are still allowed to protest and march through the town. What part of free speech says that private companies need to carry hate speech?
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#268It is good to go to the sources - but the obvious source I found appears to be [0] a recursive link so that isn't too helpful. Throwing babies out with the bathwater is bad and doing studies with diverse participants seems like a good idea. The statement can say "this research doesn't further the SPSP's goals" So I don't see why the statement itself would be objectionable. The objection would be if the statement is u…
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#269This is now firmly in religious territory. Is there much of a difference between this and halal/kosher certification?
Halal and kosher have very specific rules that must be abided by in order to fit, which do not change.
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#270The article doesn't quote or link to the policy in question, seems difficult to get a neutral point of view without actually reading the changes to the policy. Edit: the link was in the sixth paragraph, but it's much less damning than the article frames it.
The article clearly says this:
“In order to present research at the conference, all social psychologists are now required to submit a statement explaining 'whether and how this submission advances the equity, inclusion, and anti-racism goals of SPSP.’”