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Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by colinmhayes »

DesiLurker wrote: post #255
unstatusthequo wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I finally got fed up and pay for Kagi. Very happy so far. Cents per day is worth it

I looked it up. honestly $10/month is stupid level pricing for un-established product with free competitors. the pricing needs to be what can slip below average users pain threshold (IMO thats like $2.99/mo but whatever). there is a reason most techies have not heard of it yet.

I'm guessing that going from free to $0.01 is the biggest hurdle. Once people agree to pay they're willing to pay a decent amount.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by Vt71fcAqt7 »

qzx_pierri wrote: post #140
exabrial wrote: post #124

Who still using chrome? Use safari, brave, or Firefox.

I'm so tired of seeing people recommend Brave. Firefox is what the web needs. Organizational shenanigans aside, Firefox is the best browser on the market right now.

Mozilla is a Google subsidiary in all but name and has been for a while.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by ghotli »

cr3ative wrote: post #28

Annoyingly, the new tab page used to have an exclusion for these "announcements". The flag was removed. I've ended up installing one of those "inspirational new tab page" extensions, just so I don't see an ad. I am sure that means someone else is siphoning my data.

It's a tiny amount of code to write your own new tab page. I like mine, it's nice, it's custom to me. This whole story made me feel like it's great that I control what makes it to my eyes when I open a browser or a new tab

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

2kwatts wrote: post #187
Caboose8685 wrote: post #176

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It's worth noting that UGC has some significant security regressions https://qua3k.github.io/ungoogled/

When I need to use a Chrome-like browser, I just use Chromium or Brave.

and people will still not recommend firefox. this is hilarious

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by PeterisP »

lukas099 wrote: post #89
jhoechtl wrote: post #71

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These days Bing is increasingly my goto search engine, my switching costs are essentially zero

Why not duckduckgo?

Isn't duckduckgo web search pretty much bing with tiny tweaks?

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by visarga »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #112
marcus_holmes wrote: post #26

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Say you're a decision-maker at Google (or Any Large Corp). You have a KPI to increase revenue by 5% this year. If you hit this KPI, then you get a bonus. If you get the bonus, then you can afford the thing that your partner has been wanting forever (or that will make your neighbours jealous, or whatever), and you get a happy life. You know that doing X will harm the company in the long term (defined as anything past…

How do we fix this loop in companies? It is a very serious problem for humanity’s future. It exists in government too. How do we reward long-term thinking and decisions?

It's the alignment problem, but for people.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by refurb »

becquerel wrote: post #30
glcheetham wrote: post #18

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If this harms their business then why would they keep doing it

You are assuming that capitalism pushes individual actors to act in their own best self-interest. It does not. It pushes people to serve capital

People serve their own self interests in general.

You don’t need capitalism for that (as non-capitalist systems have clearly shown).

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by moffkalast »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #258
moffkalast wrote: post #248

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That's just yahoo and bing search merged, with some graphics to tell you how much they love privacy every 2 seconds. It also has a stupid name.

> That's just yahoo and bing search merged, Given that we're in a thread underneath someone endorsing Bing as a good option, that sounds like a plus. > with some graphics to tell you how much they love privacy every 2 seconds. That is their differentiator, yes. > It also has a stupid name. As... Opposed to Google or Bing? This is your argument?

> Given that we're in a thread underneath someone endorsing Bing as a good option, that sounds like a plus.

Yeah, but why not just cut out the middleman?

> As... Opposed to Google or Bing? This is your argument?

I'm half kidding, but seriously "duck duck go"? What kinda goofy ass name is that? No wonder nobody takes it seriously.

The equivalent there would be GoGoBaby for Google or RingADingDing for Bing. I guess GoDaddy is a thing, but that doesn't make it any less weird.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by systemvoltage »

genshii wrote: post #235
thrown_22 wrote: post #225

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[flagged]

Care to elaborate?

I don't think the response should have been flagged. Sources are directly from CDC. They've changed the definition of what a vaccine is regardless of your position on vaccination.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

moffkalast wrote: post #268
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's just yahoo and bing search merged, Given that we're in a thread underneath someone endorsing Bing as a good option, that sounds like a plus. > with some graphics to tell you how much they love privacy every 2 seconds. That is their differentiator, yes. > It also has a stupid name. As... Opposed to Google or Bing? This is your argument?

> Given that we're in a thread underneath someone endorsing Bing as a good option, that sounds like a plus. Yeah, but why not just cut out the middleman? > As... Opposed to Google or Bing? This is your argument? I'm half kidding, but seriously "duck duck go"? What kinda goofy ass name is that? No wonder nobody takes it seriously. The equivalent there would be GoGoBaby for Google or RingADingDing for Bing. I guess GoD…

> Yeah, but why not just cut out the middleman?

Because DDG acts as a privacy screen and doesn't tell Microsoft what I personally search for. They are, as you note, fairly pointed about this being their purpose.

> I'm half kidding, but seriously "duck duck go"? What kinda goofy ass name is that? No wonder nobody takes it seriously.

It's a play on a commonly-known phrase (duck duck goose), and while this is all subjective I don't see how it's any weirder than anything else in the space.

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