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Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by accountofme »

safety1st wrote: post #202
Lammy wrote: post #58

I realize "Plasma" is the name of the KDE presentation layer across all platforms, but it's mildly awkward to see in this context considering plasma TVs have only been a dead technology for six years or so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display

Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage. The basic thing going on here is simp…

> there is no good 10' experience today on Linux.

What about Xbmc/Kodi? Works great on a raspberry pi hooked up to my TV... Has been doing that since the early 2000's when it ran on my brothers Xbox (original) but that was pre-Linux.

Edit: spelling

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by pabs3 »

mike_d wrote: post #146
cycomanic wrote: post #100

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That's a pretty strong statement to make. It would highly depend on the contract between Vizio and their suppliers no? In particular if the lawsuit finds that anything from the supplier (like e.g. the display driver) is part of the GPL violation the contract likely contain clauses that would force the supplier to provide source code. Otherwise Vizio has grounds to sue their supplier. That's the beauty about going aft…

Suing a rebranding company is actually the dumbest move. If I buy Ford trucks wholesale and put my own logo on the grill and my own software on the entertainment system that uses GPL code in violation of the license, you can sue me until the cows come home but you are never going to get all the other software Ford has on that car. The idea that a court could compel Vizio to provide enough source code that you could r…

It happened with routers, the OpenWRT project is a result of GPL enforcement against Linksys. There is no reason the same can't happen with TVs and other devices. If the company can't comply with the GPL, then at minimum the lawsuit could be transferred to the suppliers, or at worst the company can stop using Linux and other software they violate the licenses of. There are plenty of non-copyleft or proprietary projects they can use too. Whatever software Vizio use that isn't subject to GPL requirements can be rewritten or replaced with other components. The main thing is that the GPL code get released.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by LoganDark »

safety1st wrote: post #202
Lammy wrote: post #58

I realize "Plasma" is the name of the KDE presentation layer across all platforms, but it's mildly awkward to see in this context considering plasma TVs have only been a dead technology for six years or so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display

Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage. The basic thing going on here is simp…

The marketing screenshots aren't too attractive honestly. It seriously seems to be lacking in consistent margins and padding. Look at the menu bar for example-- those icons are far too large for the space they fill. They look super cramped.

This is, somehow, typical in most Linux software I've used. They just don't care. :/

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by LoganDark »

JosephGuerra wrote: post #228
kwhitefoot wrote: post #221

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Sitting three metres from the screen I presume.

No way. that would be a 9'9" experience, I believe.. Although I think your point is correct.

I'd say 10' is within the margin of error considering how many significant figures they gave in their estimate.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by dredmorbius »

deanCommie wrote: post #115

Nitpick for anyone involved in this project: > Plasma Bigscreen turns your TV or setup-box into a fully hackable device I know what you meant, but given the concerns people have with privacy of their TVs, smart devices, and in general the security of their internet connected home, describing something that turns your TV into being "fully hackable" feels like it's ripe for misunderstanding.

"Customisable" would be a preferable term IMO.

"Owner-customisable" or "user-customisable" perhaps to clarify that you're in control.

"Putting you in control of your TV" might be a good slogan or motto.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by lrvick »

comboy wrote: post #152
lrvick wrote: post #150

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They do, which is why you should never connect them to the internet.

Seriously? Well not connecting them to the internet works less and less, Amazon is rolling out their 900Mhz mesh with echo devices and there's LTE-M, NB-IoT and such. The idea of not letting a device connect to the Internet is slowly becoming a thing of the past unless you live in a faraday cage (which is becoming more and more tempting). Oh, correction, thanks to mesh networks like that of Alexa living in a Faraday…

I do just fine not connecting proprietary IoT shit to the internet. Sometimes I have to bust out a soldering iron, but if it is hardware you own it is always a choice.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by lrvick »

TickleSteve wrote: post #232
comboy wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously? Well not connecting them to the internet works less and less, Amazon is rolling out their 900Mhz mesh with echo devices and there's LTE-M, NB-IoT and such. The idea of not letting a device connect to the Internet is slowly becoming a thing of the past unless you live in a faraday cage (which is becoming more and more tempting). Oh, correction, thanks to mesh networks like that of Alexa living in a Faraday…

Even with a mesh, devices still have to be authorised to get access. Just don't do that. The more difficult option is if they come with cellular modems built-in, thus bypassing any of your infrastructure (which needs authorisation). That of course is technically possible, tho probably commercially unacceptable (modems cost ~15 to 20 dollars in bulk which is significant at smart-tv scales, not counting the data cost).

More expensive IoT items like modern cars ship with factory activated cellular modem based tracking. Your options today are to buy older base model vehicles or learn to use a screwdriver and a soldering iron.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by jbay808 »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #198
jbay808 wrote: post #196

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I purchased DUNE on YouTube. Turns out even after paying full price, the image quality is limited to 480P unless you watch via a smart TV. To prevent piracy, or something.

Are you watching YouTube on Linux by any chance? AFAIK modern versions of chrome and FF should not have this issue even on Linux but I could be wrong as I'm out of the loop on modern DRM.

On Windows, actually.

Re: Plasma Bigscreen

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Post by ncmncm »

accountofme wrote: post #261
safety1st wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly it's disappointing that most of the comments on HN so far have been focused on the "marketing" and the website. The FAQ states that this project is still in very early stages and not yet intended for use as a daily driver. So if you actually read the website, it's clear why it's not consumer grade. I would much rather they focus on developing than marketing at this stage. The basic thing going on here is simp…

> there is no good 10' experience today on Linux. What about Xbmc/Kodi? Works great on a raspberry pi hooked up to my TV... Has been doing that since the early 2000's when it ran on my brothers Xbox (original) but that was pre-Linux. Edit: spelling

100% CPU redrawing the screen continuously. Or was, last I checked.
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