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iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by mwint »

lapcat wrote: post #247
GeekyBear wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple just released another security update for the 2014 iPhone 5s.

For some reason they patched one and only one actively exploited bug in iOS 12. They did not patch the bug in iOS 13 or iOS 14. iOS 14 hasn't received any security updates since October 2021. It's been even longer for iOS 13. And also for iOS 12, except for that one unusual patch. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222 We can't treat the exception as the rule. It would be misleading to claim that Apple is still sup…

I wonder if iOS 12 is used in some weird special environment that doesn’t want to upgrade? Possible DoD-related or something similar?

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Post by LTL_FTC »

the_mar wrote: post #110
avtar wrote: post #10

Apple’s call and sms spam filtering remains subpar to say the least. When I had a Pixel, I had the option to let the OS transcribe what the potential spammer was saying and end the call. It’s puzzling why Apple isn’t doing more here.

Boy do i have a lifehack for you. Buy a phone number with a random area code, like ohio or something, all the spam calls come from surrounding area codes.

I must be extra lucky because I receive calls from all over the US and beyond. Just yesterday I received one from Brazil.

Re: iOS 16 Available September 12th

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Post by CTDOCodebases »

the_mar wrote: post #110
avtar wrote: post #10

Apple’s call and sms spam filtering remains subpar to say the least. When I had a Pixel, I had the option to let the OS transcribe what the potential spammer was saying and end the call. It’s puzzling why Apple isn’t doing more here.

Boy do i have a lifehack for you. Buy a phone number with a random area code, like ohio or something, all the spam calls come from surrounding area codes.

In my location the spammer spoofs the numbers of calls that get picked up or go to voicemail.

I assume they do this to muddy the block lists that get used to filter their calls.

I know this because every now and then I will get up to 5 or so calls or texts of people claiming I called them.

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Post by JaneLovesDotNet »

cowsup wrote: post #259
JaneLovesDotNet wrote: post #246

Anyone surprised by the Island notch software/hardware design? I don't mean the idea of a pill shaped notch. But the fact they're pouring so much software resource into it (even building dev tools) when the shape/size of that cutout should in theory change in the future when technology allows for smaller (or non-existent) cutouts. They will either feel commited to that hardware design and stick to it longer than they…

They likely have the next 3-4 phones mostly planned out. Given the current limitations of under-display cameras, they’d rather pour resources into function over form when it comes to features and services like FaceID, FaceTime, and Memoji. Sure, maybe by the end of the 20s, the “island” will be obsolete, but I think Apple is secure in the knowledge that the pill is here for several generations of iPhone to come.

Do you think they plan out that far in advance? If so that is very impressive.

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Post by cercatrova »

cowsup wrote: post #259
JaneLovesDotNet wrote: post #246

Anyone surprised by the Island notch software/hardware design? I don't mean the idea of a pill shaped notch. But the fact they're pouring so much software resource into it (even building dev tools) when the shape/size of that cutout should in theory change in the future when technology allows for smaller (or non-existent) cutouts. They will either feel commited to that hardware design and stick to it longer than they…

They likely have the next 3-4 phones mostly planned out. Given the current limitations of under-display cameras, they’d rather pour resources into function over form when it comes to features and services like FaceID, FaceTime, and Memoji. Sure, maybe by the end of the 20s, the “island” will be obsolete, but I think Apple is secure in the knowledge that the pill is here for several generations of iPhone to come.

Indeed, Apple keeps designs around for quite a while, while other brands iterate more quickly it seems. The notch and fingerprint scanner when underscreen cameras and scanners are available, the MacBook 2016 design, the Apple mouse, are all examples that come to mind.

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Post by ChuckMcM »

LegitShady wrote: post #239
ChuckMcM wrote: post #231

This may be an unpopular opinion but I find iOS to be a much better appliance OS than Android, Chrome, or Windows. That said they are getting close to the 'computer' gap. Back when computers were super expensive (like millions of $) the owners (or lessors) would try to get them to do as many things as possible all the time so maximize the "value" of their investment. What was truly revolutionary about microprocessors…

I don't understand how anything you said is an argument in support of iOS being a better appliance OS than its competitors.

Then your understanding is correct :-), I was not making an argument about the relative merits of appliance OSes. The point I was trying to make, and it relates to the linked article that I read and the features they are highlighting, is that the gap between "appliance" OSes and "general purpose" OSes, is narrowing. Both because the "general purpose" OSes are becoming more appliance like, and the "appliance" OSes are becoming more generalizable[sic].

As they get closer, differentiating them becomes more challenging. And I am really curious about how this affects both markets.

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Post by astrange »

kshacker wrote: post #207
giarc wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to be able to log into my Apple ID account and do this on a PC. I hate sliding them around various pages with my finger.

And I think years back you used to be able to do it from iTunes when the phone was connected with a wire. It disappeared over the years probably when they moved to Finder, but I think maybe even earlier.

You can do it with Apple Configurator, and there's a command line tool to apply a JSON layout.

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Post by astrange »

theideaofcoffee wrote: post #28
anonuser123456 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a extremely hard to maintain differential software features across hardware product lines. What ‘sounds lame’ may translate into significantly added complexity to the maintenance process.

I think with all of their resources, Apple of all companies could dig deep and stretch a little bit to make that happen.

It would cost more or less infinite money to do this because of mythical man month issues.

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Post by quitit »

l72 wrote: post #98

Still no ability to have separate accounts on an ipad... I sort of understand that a phone is a single user OS, but the ipad most certainly should be a multi user OS.

Currently hardware-wise they're designed for a single user experience. E.g. the limit of face-ids in the secure enclave, or more trivially they don't come with a lot of storage to host multiple photo/music/app libraries without having to put every little thing in the cloud.

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Post by Arn_Thor »

Waterluvian wrote: post #193

Is anyone else anxious about updates? I used to be so pumped for them when I was a teen. They’d unlock a world of new opportunities. Now I just feel anxious that there’s change for change sake to justify the resourcing of the design teams and that they’ll make things I’m used to worse all for a bunch of features I’ll never use or want. I don’t want more features. There’s so many already and they’re really cluttering.…

I’ve been on a similar journey. I’m not worried about the official releases, but in recent years I’ve stopped jumping on the public betas. Probably because I rely on my devices more for work since Covid
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