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vidarh wrote: post #253
tomelders wrote: post #250

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Italy just installed a technocratic government. If they manage to save Italy from completely imploding (which is the course it's democratic government set it on), then you may have reconsider your stance on this. That they needed to (begrudgingly) install a technocrat at the 11th hour simply to stave off total and utter destruction of their economy (and the wider EU economy) is, in my opinion, proof enough that Techn…

> Italy just installed a technocratic government. In a very, very limited sense. A government in a country with a parliamentary system is subject to support of parliament. As such, its powers are drastically limited compared to the US executive, for example, as it can be overthrown by parliament at any time. In this case they have a very narrow mandate from parliament, and can expect to be forced to resign if they do…

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Post by freehunter »

davedx wrote: post #27

"...protect American jobs..." "...innocent civilians and American soldiers at risk..." Who would have thought BitTorrent was such a threat to American civilisation?

I'm not able to watch this while sitting at work, but... did they really make the argument that not having SOPA would put soldiers at risk? I don't see how that... I... what?

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Post by sycren »

sukuriant wrote: post #245
sycren wrote: post #159

So... Tech companies, feel like moving your base of operations to Europe? We really need some investment right now ;)

What does it take to move to Europe and join a tech-based company there..?

temporary move or permanent? If you find a company interested in hiring you, it should be easy to get a working visa. A permanent move may be more difficult.

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Post by apotheon »

sp332 wrote: post #119
ukgent wrote: post #25

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FoxyProxy!

No, that only works against blocking traffic. SOPA would remove the DNS entry from the .COM domain. It's an attack at the DNS level so using a proxy won't work. You'd need something like the MAFIAFire plugin to keep a "shadow" DNS going.

That's the extension they must have been discussing, because it's the extension Mozilla was pressured to remove from its listings.

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Post by a3camero »

loungin wrote: post #199
a3camero wrote: post #69

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You don't need to go that far. Canada! We're not far away and most day-to-day things are the same here. Also our Supreme Court recently ruled that hyperlinks are like footnotes in a book so publishing a hyperlink to defamatory material doesn't mean you're responsible for the defamatory material (not republication). Sensible ruling. Heading in direction of internet freedom not away from it.

Honestly, I had not heard that, that's awesome. Keep going that way and I'll ditch the Cali sun for your forests (sorry ukgent :)

Should have included case in original post: http://scc.lexum.org/en/2011/2011scc47/2011scc47.html

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Post by anigbrowl »

marknutter wrote: post #256
anigbrowl wrote: post #237

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You realize, I hope, the chief proponent of this bill claims to be a proponent of 'limited government': As the federal government gets bigger and bigger, one wonders if the proponents of government health care and cap and trade have read the Constitution? Upholding his oath to defend the Constitution, Congressman Smith believes that government must be limited so that it never becomes powerful enough to infringe on th…

Claiming to be a proponent of limited government and actually being a proponent of limited government are two entirely different things.

And yet people keep falling for the rhetoric.

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Post by rhizome »

anigbrowl wrote: post #234
rhizome wrote: post #193

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Any political action that can restrict the behavior of business is crippled in advance.

Not so. The Republicans have a large majority in the House at present and the SOPA bill was introduced by the chairman of this committee. That's why the hearing is tilted unusually heavily in favor of the proponents. 'Business' includes all the tech companies who are lobbying uphill against SOPA as well.

The tech companies lobbying uphill are copyright consumers in this context. They are users, and the copyright owners' interests are those being prioritized, and whose interests have been favored in the entire SOPA (and before) movement. That the hearings are tilted in favor of copyright owners is simply public evidence of structural bigotry.

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Post by ericd »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #258
ericd wrote: post #252

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It doesn't have to be, but in this case, it is. They've made a large part of this about the common working man, when that's clearly not the motivation behind this video. They did it because they're pandering to their audience, who cares about that. Throw in repeated South Park and other brand cameos for broad based appeal and an instant emotional connection (I have a hard time believing that Matt Stone and Trey Parke…

You're right, it is. What I meant is that the tech industry doesn't have to copy the 'manipulativeness' to make a convincing videos against SOPA.

Oh I see, sorry for misunderstanding you. You're probably right. It can be hard to make a strictly factual video have the same emotional impact, though.
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