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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by fleddr »

Admittedly, An interesting idea for the very mobile user.

As for mainstream usage, horrible in my view. A 12.5" laptop, who works on this? Ants? Even the "full fledged" desktop experience is 17". A size I considered too tiny for ergonomic work 2 decades ago. Windows in touch mode...meh.

Given that it's main value is in ultra mobile use, it's weird to flex all kinds of gimmicky features like audio. As if it's some kind of "creator" laptop, which it isn't.

It's typical of Asus, a showcase laptop throwing lots of stuff at the wall.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by cowtools »

JadeNB wrote: post #220
ndiddy wrote: post #180

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In early childhood, children's brains will rapidly adapt to their environment ( https://academic.oup.com/pch/article/11/9/571/2648303?login=... ), for example Aboriginal Australian children develop strong spatial cognition to survive in an environment with few landmarks ( https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/001002... ). It'll be interesting to see what happens when the generation of children whose b…

> It'll be interesting to see what happens when the generation of children whose brains have adapted to oversaturated, constantly changing, narrative-free stimuli by being raised on YouTube Kids reaches adulthood. This sounds word for word like worries about the first generation of children raised with ready access to TVs.

It could be a difference in kind, not merely a difference in degree. Besides, who is to say that TV did not have negative effects?

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by [deleted] »

eldaisfish wrote: post #234
fuckmeyes wrote: post #200

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They are shit in RMA but as is every other company, most service centres are outsourced. I remember I just need a droid to remove the cmos battery from my zenbook to fix some weird power on race condition that prevented the whole thing from switching on - I didn’t have the silly screwdrivers - yet they wanted to rma it for two weeks - had to literally scream down the shop unrefined - losing face - until they relented…

Not every other company. Apple - to name one - are often simply excellent at this because they understand the power of customer satisfaction. There are numerous stories of apple replacing failed hardware with equivalent, newer models - phones and laptops alike. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms one can make of Apple but customer satisfaction under warranty is not one of them.

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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

iasay wrote: post #225
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #219

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>I'm in Europe... Then how do your kids communicate with those who only have android devices? That's a big social issue among teens in the US. iMessage is never popular in Europe, as everyone here uses cross platform apps like Whatsapp, Telegram, Snapchat, etc. due to the lower market share of IOS vs Andorid. Your case seems like an outlier.

I have WhatsApp as well. None of our kids have Android devices as you can't control them adequately.

>Android devices as you can't control them adequately

What's missing on Android that Apple has for control?

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by cowtools »

sumedh wrote: post #154
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #137

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Not parent and I don't have kids but if I did, there's no way I'm giving them an ipad. They can have coloring books, crayons, Legos and building blocks, doll houses, physical plastic, wooden and plush toys, restricted access to PCs/consoles, but no portable smart devices with screens, online connection and spyware apps. By kids I'm talking about pre-teens. They can get smart devices when they're teenagers.

There are some things which you should not answer unless you have experienced it yourself. Having kids is one of them. All your activity sounds good on paper but real life does not work like that. Kids are smart, they can see you are on your smart device, they can see others are on their phones/ipads when they go outside. You dont want your kid to be a social outcast. Sometimes when you want to do your chores or want…

I don't think that's a responsible attitude to have. "You dont want your kid to be a social outcast", sure, but sometimes you have to lay down the law. That starts with setting an example yourself.

If you're always on your phone, you're sending your children the social signal that that's OK.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by [deleted] »

jacquesm wrote: post #110

The responses to this are more interesting than the device itself. It's innovative, it's done by a brand that has a reasonable reputation for reliability and for standing behind their products and it may well fit a niche. Innovation is always going to be risky, and Asus stands to lose some of their credibility if the device does not hold up over time. So I'll be more than happy to let them do their thing. As for sust…

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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by iasay »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #264
iasay wrote: post #225

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I have WhatsApp as well. None of our kids have Android devices as you can't control them adequately.

>Android devices as you can't control them adequately What's missing on Android that Apple has for control?

one browser engine across the whole platform and white listed content filters.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by seanw444 »

eldaisfish wrote: post #234
fuckmeyes wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are shit in RMA but as is every other company, most service centres are outsourced. I remember I just need a droid to remove the cmos battery from my zenbook to fix some weird power on race condition that prevented the whole thing from switching on - I didn’t have the silly screwdrivers - yet they wanted to rma it for two weeks - had to literally scream down the shop unrefined - losing face - until they relented…

Not every other company. Apple - to name one - are often simply excellent at this because they understand the power of customer satisfaction. There are numerous stories of apple replacing failed hardware with equivalent, newer models - phones and laptops alike. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms one can make of Apple but customer satisfaction under warranty is not one of them.

I personally don't care for their devices, or their locked-down software. But seeing how they treat my parents, they certainly have great customer satisfaction.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by ge96 »

This is something I'd always thought about eg. "why not have both halves be screens". Now here it is. Will be interesting how it's like typing on a piece of glass, we do it on a phone. I'll try it one day but that'll be when they're not $2K each or whatever price. Which I don't buy brand new laptops or $1K phones to begin with so nothing against this in particular.

Although I imagine buying something like this used is probably not a good idea. (wear tear)

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