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Yeah, let's see that superiority when the US supremacy breaks down. Because the only way that the Western culture has prevailed this century is through bloodshed.
There must be some western culture that has been successful because it is what humans naturally gravitate towards.
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#262Do people agree that corporations should respect the customs and values of the local people when operating their business there? If yes, then Amazon is not "bowing", and it is The Guardian who is playing word games here. If not, then it would seem to imply that we are OK with western powers using their capital (instead of gunboats) to impose their ideology on other cultures in the world. Now, one may argue that the c…
I think it's a spectrum. When adjusting to local culture in a more colloquial manner, e.g., like what McDonald's and KFC do with their food in places like China, I think that is fine. However, when it comes to supporting and enabling ideology and policies that directly conflict with the values of the country that company is headquartered in and actually most of the developed world, then I think it's a national securi…
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I also can't understand why we need parades that share what other people do in their bedrooms. This cuts both ways.
>I also can't understand why we need parades that share what other people do in their bedrooms Probably a reaction 'what they do in the bedroom' being made literally illegal for a long period of time. I can imagine wanting to throw a parade to show the 'good people of society' that you're just as human as they are, with the expected goal being to ward off further persecution in the future.
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I also can't understand why we need parades that share what other people do in their bedrooms. This cuts both ways.
Because some private behavior has been stigmatized, villainized, and criminalized. With that kind of history, it certainly seems understandable to me that groups victimized in that way create cultural artifacts to celebrate who they are together and normalize them as "just people" to everyone else.
Secondly, who gave the right to non-Muslim countries to enforce what they think onto conservative Muslim societies? This is literally continued colonization.
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I also can't understand why we need parades that share what other people do in their bedrooms. This cuts both ways.
I wouldn't describe Pride as "[sharing] what other people do in their bedrooms" but rather sharing that there are people different than the majority/perceived default. It's about bringing awareness to and normalizing acceptance of differences.
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Hypothetically, what if you believe that this closed bedroom behavior is disordered and unhealthy, and that celebrating it, while admittedly well-intentioned, is not helpful, good or the best way to love or respect these people? Despite that attitude being the norm for much of human history, to advocate such a position now is literally modern heresy, and the end to your career and any public life. Diversity of opinio…
> Hypothetically, what if you believe that this closed bedroom behavior is disordered and unhealthy, and that celebrating it, while admittedly well-intentioned, is not helpful, good or the best way to love or respect these people? You are saying that the Arab countries do this because they want to love or respect these people? Maybe not stoning them to death might be more helpful. Just saying. > Diversity of opinion…
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#267> Earlier this month, authorities in Saudi Arabia seized rainbow-coloured toys and children’s clothing, which they claimed encourage homosexuality, according to state TV Al Ekhbariya. It said commerce ministry officials removed a range of items from shops in the capital, Riyadh, including hats, skirts, T-shirts, hair clips and pencil cases. I swear it's always a moral panic/mass hysteria with these people when it com…
We see what's coming, we see how things are unfolding in the rest of the world, so taking preventative action is only the smart and rational thing to do. You might not agree with it, but these are our culture and norms, and we've survived for over 1,400 years now.
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I wouldn't describe Pride as "[sharing] what other people do in their bedrooms" but rather sharing that there are people different than the majority/perceived default. It's about bringing awareness to and normalizing acceptance of differences.
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They said: "Some things are simply wrong. This is one of those things. If one’s worldview disagrees, then theirs is simply incorrect on this matter." Similar concept but different issue: Do you think women should have equal rights as men? Do you think that should be universal? Or do you think it is OK for some jurisdictions to declare them the property of their husbands?
> Do you think women should have equal rights as men? What I think is irrelevant. The question why the US hasn't yet ratified the Equal Rights Amendment that would guarantee that "women have equal rights" is also irrelevant (hint: women opposed that). The relevant question is, whether a powerful state is right to impose its values (which it, undoubtedly, holds in high esteem) on other states.
I thought we were talking about Amazon, not a state.
But let's say we were talking about a state, I think the Universal Declaration of Human Rights can be the North Star that we hold states accountable to (incl. the United States of America).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human...
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You do realise that even UAE and Afghanistan both have more humane abortion laws than some of the southern states, don't you?
What does it have to do with LGBT rights? Also, your comment is completely wrong, but again it's representative of the weird hyperbole that sounds completely hysterical from an outsiders perspective. For starters, even if abortion becomes completely illegal in any given US state, you can still travel across state lines and get one. Not ideal, but in Afghanistan you can't get an abortion or even travel without your hu…