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Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by freediver »

mimimi31 wrote: post #214
ezekg wrote: post #3

Alternatively, you could stop using Google and use Kagi ( https://kagi.com ), which offers the same feature. :)

Thanks for the recommendation. It looks like a great service and I'd love to support them, but as a student I just can't justify $10/month as long as Google with an adblocker is still an okay experience. Credit card being the only payment option is another problem, since I (like most people where I live) only have a debit card, with credit cards usually costing extra. I'll definitely keep an eye on kagi though, hopin…

Kagi accepts debit cards.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by almog »

vorpalhex wrote: post #230
almog wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, while I can perhaps understand perhaps why the repository owner, given that he's not from the US (according to his Github) and lacking the historical background, could think that the fact that closing the issue with the comment "I don't want to touch this controversial issue" might actually be a neutral approach (it's not, he touched the issue when he chose the name in 2018, perhaps later if he heard about twitt…

> lacking the historical background I think you might be the one lacking the historical background. Blacklist comes from King Henry and his list of political enemies. > but every other commenter is intentionally toxic I find realpoliticking innocous words to be toxic and problematic.

> I think you might be the one lacking the historical background. Blacklist comes from King Henry and his list of political enemies.

1. You seem to assume that historical background is synonymous with "words first origin". By historical background I meant to refer to not being fully aware of just how much racism toward black Americans was and is still present everywhere. I say so as a non-American myself. It's not present in your every day, one cannot fully grasp it.

2. While the term Blacklist does not originate from colonialism, it seems to have first been used in the 1639 tragedy "The Unnatural Combat" by Philip Massinger.

3. Not only did I not find any evidences supporting your fun "fact" about "King Henry and his enemies", the name Henry was quite popular as far as kings go, but non of them even lived in the 17th century according to this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rulers_named_Henry

4. Back to the term - while blacklist _origin_ has nothing to do with racism, it's counterpart, "white list" was first used in the mid 19th century (not sure where it was first used exactly) - while the people who made these terms popular in the 20th century perhaps were not racist, they also were also did not think about how black people would feel about labeling white with "allow" and black with "reject", and I while I can't hold it against them since it might have been different times, the fact that some people are trying so hard to keep using these words, despite being triggering toward some people is hard for me to understand without making cynical assumptions about their motives.

> I find realpoliticking innocous words to be toxic and problematic.

While I'm not sure what Realpolitik has to do with any of it, but your issues with it, whether justified or not, do not make the comments on that issue any less toxic.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by infamia »

voxl wrote: post #243
infamia wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> black means evil and white means divine in popular culture, in video games, etc. Angels are white and demons are black. It's not nearly as black and white (/pun) as you portray. Black is also symbolic of ultimate luxury and sophistication (black limo, black tux, AMEX Black Card, etc.). Nor is white universally considered a good thing either (e.g. whitewashing a bad situation).

That's funny! Because I _never_ hear anyone call it a black limo, or a black tux, though they are usually black, they are not referred to as black.

> I _never_ hear anyone call it a black limo, or a black tux, though they are usually black, they are not referred to as black.

I was responding to your blanket assertion that "black means evil and white means divine in popular culture", which is clearly not true as I've illustrated. Colors have various connotations depending on the context, you have simply latched on to one context and want to apply it everywhere to fit your argument. The fact that AMEX chose to brand their ultra-exclusive card as AMEX Black is telling. Clearly, AMEX thinks you are going to associate their card's name with luxury and exclusivity, and aren't going to associate their card with evil.

Edit: Accidentally quoted the grandparent instead of the parent.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by freediver »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #24
ezekg wrote: post #3

Alternatively, you could stop using Google and use Kagi ( https://kagi.com ), which offers the same feature. :)

Does it support IE6? (Google does, and it's a browser I enjoy using.)

We didn’t try yet but Kagi works the same with JS disabled. JS is there to enhance UX, not create it.

Let us know.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by raffraffraff »

wakeupcall wrote: post #63
krono wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not denying that. However, unless I'd be blocking new domains on a weekly basis, I just don't think it's worth installing an additional extension for something that's so easily achieved without.

I've started blocking results using ublock last year after it has been mentioned here, and I've got to the point where I have a script I can use to generate the relevant filters for google/bing and a few other search engines. When I spot any domain which has been squatted by SEO and useless comparison-alike websites I immediately block it. This has brought up the quality of results IMMENSELY. I'm blocking domains on…

Hey, could you post a gist? I'm currently using uBlacklist to block exactly that type of shitty site you mention.

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by almog »

vorpalhex wrote: post #228
flowinho wrote: post #121

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Blacklist comes from King Henry's "Little Black Book" which was a list of his political enemies. Attempts to make it a racial thing are ahistorical and racist in and of themselves.

You seem to copy and paste this fake fact about 'King Henry's Little Black Book"' all over the thread.

> Blacklist comes from King Henry's "Little Black Book" which was a list of his political enemies.

While the term Blacklist does not originate from colonialism, it seems to have first been used in the 1639 tragedy "The Unnatural Combat" by Philip Massinger.

Not only did I not find any evidences supporting your fun "fact" about "King Henry and his enemies", the name Henry was quite popular as far as kings go, but non of them even lived in the 17th century according to this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rulers_named_Henry

Back to the term - while blacklist _origin_ has nothing to do with racism, it's counterpart, "white list" was first used in the mid 19th century (not sure where it was first used exactly) - while the people who made these terms popular in the 20th century perhaps were not racist, they also were also did not think about how black people would feel about labeling white with "allow" and black with "reject", and I while I can't hold it against them since it might have been different times, the fact that some people are trying so hard to keep using these words, despite being triggering toward some people is hard for me to understand without making cynical assumptions about their motives.

Could it be that you're basing your historical knowledge on this ad? I'd love be wrong on this one. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/how-wann...

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by almog »

oofbey wrote: post #247
vorpalhex wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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At first I thought he was just misinformed and tried to politely correct them, but now I see that they really just try to provoke people and using arguments of similar structures to the ones caring so much about displaying the Confederate Flag "because it's part of their American history".

Re: uBlacklist – Block specific sites from appearing in Google search results

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Post by kazinator »

bjord wrote: post #226
kazinator wrote: post #114

To take the best advantage of this, you want to crank up the results per page setting in the search engine. This is because the deletions simply cut results form each page without the results being repaginated. I made a lot of use of uBlacklist; but then I found Huawei's petalsearch.com, where pretty much none of the crap that I deleted appears in the first place. uBlacklist is really just a band-aid solution for a g…

probably won't get any of those pesky results critical of the chinese government, either

So you might think.

But I just tried the search terms "tiananmen square massacre" in PetalSearch. It comes up with the Wikipedia page on the subject, just like Google does.

The second result in PetalSearch points to the rationalwiki, whose text begins "The Tiananmen Square Massacre was a ruthless crackdown on a pro-democracy protest ..."; and that is quoted in the search result.

The next results after that are news items about Chinese censorship:

"China censors tank-shaped Viennetta ice cream on anniversary of Tiananmen Square massacre"

"China Censors Top Livestreamer, Fans Question Potential Link To Tiananmen Square Massacre Reference"

and others.

Seems all right to me.

Of course, I'm not able to repeat this test from within China; but how would Google and others fare there?

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