I do not need this, but TE makes very nice things and I love that they keep making new things.
TX-6 – Teenage Engineering
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Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering
#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't do this for a living and can't imagine how a statement like "your prototype will be cheaper than commercially available options" could be taken seriously by anyone.
If you don't count your time whatsoever and don't go for the nice case design. I mean at the extreme case, if you can tolerate 40ms of latency and stuttering, a Raspberry Pi and some USB soundcards can do it all. The actual power needed is reasonable and ADC/DACs aren't that insane. A Teensy 4.1 connected to an ESP32 could probably do most of this, if you wanted to do $15k of software development in your spare time a…
Anyone who can tolerate 40ms of latency should stick to Bluetooth. If it's more than 3ms, it's already more latency than a good RF system gives you, if it's more than 10ms things are getting questionable, and at 20+ms you've lost the ability to monitor, because what your fingers/voice do and what your ears hear are now noticeably out of sync. Try singing while monitoring yourself at 20ms delay. It's hilarious.
Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering
#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whatever all this stuff is does look good, but the website doesn't do a good job of explaining what it is, IMO. I know this is because I'm not their target market, but maybe they'd bring me into that market if they did a bit of explaining somewhere on the site of why I might be interested in their gear?
That's wouldn't really be possible. You'd have to have audio equipment to be interested in an audio interface. Trying to sell outside that market doesn't really make sense. It would be like trying to convince someone without a camera to buy your camera lens.
Imagine if Jetbrains tried to define everything on this page: https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/
You’d run out of room. At some point you have to assume your audience knows what the words mean.
Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering
#264I saw "from $199" and thought this looked like an incredible deal. Then realized it was just how the font was rendered, and it was actually "$1199". I'm not quite sure who the market for this is - that is crazy.
Every musician who has enough income to have their own production studio and likes to play with small batch gear. Because this is extremely small batch, good luck getting any Teenage Engineering products new one or two years after release. A product like this is effectively filling a niche inside a niche, and either you just don't even bother, or you charge what it costs to get your R&D back.
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#265For everyone drooling over the design of this, here’s a fun little form-over-function tidbit from the fine print: > high quality, slimline cables custom-made for TX–6. the narrow profile allows you to use all 6 channels at once and makes for an easy pack down. Sounds like the input jacks are so close together not every 3.5mm audio cable will work with it. Like a phone without a headphone jack - bring a special adapto…
Can’t believe no one’s said if you’re spending $1200 bucks on this thing, you can probably drop $60 on some cables.
It’s not about the cost of cables. It’s about the inconvenience of only some cables working. What happens if you lose/forget a cable, or if one dies on you while you’re out in the world using it? It’s much easier to replace a 3.5mm cable than it is to replace a 3.5mm cable that has a pretty narrow spec to it.
Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering
#266am I missing something, or is that a giant paddle power switch that can/will be accidentally pushed downward to off while working? edit: nope, that's exactly what that is. $1,200 for a mixer you can't use live without duct taping it, I guess. https://teenage.engineering/guides/tx-6#power-on
Why would you use this live at all? You already have a proper mixer set up in those situations.
Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering
#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's Teenage Engineering, so more like the price of 8 or 12. Also, no balanced inputs.
Balanced inputs are useful for cancelling noise in long cable runs. There are no long cable runs if your target audience is people making aesthetic 60s instagram videos of their “synth jam in nature” with $2000 of gear in shot and $2000 more to film it.
Exactly. This is the type of equipment to appear in shot of your recording studio YouTube video not the kind of thing you find back of house at a professional setup.
Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering
#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can’t believe no one’s said if you’re spending $1200 bucks on this thing, you can probably drop $60 on some cables.
It’s not about the cost of cables. It’s about the inconvenience of only some cables working. What happens if you lose/forget a cable, or if one dies on you while you’re out in the world using it? It’s much easier to replace a 3.5mm cable than it is to replace a 3.5mm cable that has a pretty narrow spec to it.
It’s also about what people will have. Walk into any show in the world and they’ll have XLR, and most productions will have 3.5 in their bag of tricks. But a specialized cable is something you’ll have to depend on yourself for.
This is actually an advantage in some cases - if you have an iPhone for example there’s very likely to be someone nearby with a charger just because how common they are.
Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering
#269Once, just once, I would like to see someone say “why is this so expensive, it’s just […]” and then build one themselves, and bring it to market, for that lower cost. Go ahead, just try.
If you insist on the portable form-factor, it will be slightly troublesome. If it's going to sit on a desk and be used all the time, a Behringer 1222USB is $250 when they aren't running a special sale. It has more channels, some usable effects, and you can add an iPad Mini with some synth software to handle the rest of the functionality. So that's half the price, and you get to play with the iPad whenever you aren't…
You don’t get the “look” - some people will buy this for the portability but a majority will be using it to fit into a particular look they want.
Think YouTube podcast where everything on the desk is sleek and apple or apple-like. This fits in in a way the Behringer doesn’t.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all to find YouTube videos with this on the desk but obviously not being used - where the actual dirty work is done offscreen.
Re: TX-6 – Teenage Engineering
#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
The way people are going on about the price I was expecting it to be a lot higher. It's about the price of a video card.
Wouldn't you want to compare it to the prices of other mixers, not video cards?
The Blendtec Pro Series is on sale and cheaper - only $800.
https://www.blendtec.com/collections/professional-blenders/p...
Oh, that kind of mixer.