Am I missing something or is this basically the 6-7 year old LG UltraFine 5k 27” with some extra bells and whistles?
Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display
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#263For me, its frustrating to not see an option without all the webcam, microphone, octuple speaker array, A13, 100w charging, TB hub, madness. I have to imagine that adds significant cost, and at $1600 we're not in the territory where this stuff can be included just 'cause. I like it, but I imagine some professionals would like to do what Apple's marketing images all show; buy two, maybe even three. I'd love to have on…
So you’re asking for the LG UF 5k?
Which is discontinued in most territories.
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Show me a higher/same resolution display with a higher refresh rate. I'd genuinely curious. I've been searching for a new monitor for a few weeks and can't find anything with 4K and more than 60Hz refresh rate.
https://www.amazon.com/LG-27GN950-B-Ultragear-Response-Compa...
As the other comment pointed out, that is not an apples to apples comparison. The monitor you linked is a UHD one (3840 x 2160 pixels, around 8.3 megapixels) with a pixel density of ~200 ppi. The display showcased by Apple has a resolution of 5K (5120 x 2880 pixels, around 14.75 megapixels) with a pixel density of 217 ppi. Also, based on my experiences with LG gaming monitors I would assume that the Apple display also has a significantly better color accuracy.
If you would have taken a second to look at the specs and search for actually comparable products you would find that there are, at least to my knowledge, no displays with the same resolution and higher refresh rates. This makes sense because 5k@60Hz already has incredibly high bandwidth requirements.
The best actually comparable product is an LG UltraFine 5K which comes in at 1,499€ msrp which is 246€ cheaper than Apple's Studio Display at 1,745€ msrp. Oh, and to no ones surprise, it also has a 60 Hz refresh rate.
So to answer your initial question: Yes, people do spend that kind of money on displays with "only" 60Hz.
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#265No 120hz listed in the tech specs, that’s gonna be jarring for people with a M1 macbook pro.
There's a good reason for this: Thunderbolt 4 doesn't have enough port bandwidth. TB4 can carry a max of 30Gbps but 5K @ 120hz is 32Gbps. There's no way Apple would do two cables for this, and the next gen of Thunderbolt is a while off, so the choice makes sense.
DisplayPort 1.4 (which TB3/TB4 support as an alternate mode) has enough bandwidth for 5k at up to 144Hz using display stream compression (which Apple already uses for the Pro Display XDR): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#Refresh_frequency_...
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Yeah I don’t know what it is with everyone prioritizing pixels over refresh rate.. once you start using 100+hz 60hz starts to feel like a slide show. You can see mouse trails and scrolling is jerky and uncoordinated, it’s painful and insanely distracting.
Remember 60hz CRTs? That was unbearable for me.
For a while I went down the rabbit hole of getting high end CRTs for retro games. I’m in a PAL region though, and the first time I booted up a 50Hz game I wondered how the hell I didn’t spend my entire childhood with a migraine. 60 I’m fine with but 50 I can literally see flickering.
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#267$1599 isn't quite as bad as I expected, actually. I've still got my old 27" Apple Thunderbolt Display (a puny 2560 by 1440 pixels), which i use daily. (The convenience of built-in video/mic/USB hub, with one cable, is indispensible and more important to me than resolution, and it's been really unclear to me what else could do that with a macbook). But might be ready to upgrade to this guy.
That's the same resolution (screen real estate) as this new one. Just 1x and not 2x Retina.
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#268I wish they wouldn't make me scroll through two pages of animated backgrounds just to see the actual monitor. That said if I would spend this much on a monitor I would prefer the Samsung Odyssey Neo, which has a 5K resolution on a curved 49' display with a 240 Hz refresh rate, HDR 2.000 and G-Sync/Freesync. I guess the color space coverage is not as good though, and it's not as bright at 420 nits, though that's more…
> 5K resolution on a curved 49' display with a 240 Hz refresh rate
That is clearly a gaming monitor. No-one would want to do the sort of workloads this display is aimed at on something like that.
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#269I wish Apple would use their clout to move up in size. I've been waiting for a nice 32" monitor or larger for a while at a reasonable price. Currently using a 4K 39" TV as a monitor (had to contort the settings to get the text readable, etc.) Probably has something to do with panel yields and profit, sadly (but understandably). That said (and acknowledged, I'm not generally an Apple person), I see very little reason…
I'd happily pay $3k-$4k if they simply glued two 27'' Studio displays together, effectively making it a 32:9 49'' ultrawide. Come on, Apple.
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I've been running an LG non-curved 3440x1440 ultrawide monitor as my main work monitor for several years now. It's a great form factor, but the resolution is really sad. It's essentially a wider version of the Dell 1440p monitor that I had ten years ago . My ideal monitor now would be a pixel-doubled version of this ultrawide monitor, but I'm still tempted to lose the extra width and upgrade to this 5k display.
The Dell U4021QW is probably the best monitor I've ever used. I, too, got sad with 1440 vertical pixels on previous ultrawides, so I was pretty excited when they announced this one. 5120 x 2160 is really a dream. It's limited to 60hz, which bothers some folks, but I haven't noticed. I don't game or anything on it, though.
I actually forgot that that monitor configuration existed. It looks nice, although I assume you would still be running at the same UI scaling as a 1440p monitor, and the higher pixel density compared to a 34" ultrawide 1440p display (around 25% higher) means you put the monitor closer to your eyes. So unless you're doing non-integer scaling (which I want to avoid if at all possible), you get a lot more real estate than the 1440p display, but not 2x density. Or you could do 2x scaling, but then you've just got the real estate of an ultrawide 1080p display. Personally I have plenty of real estate with 3440x1440, and what I'm really interested in is jumping to 2x scaling.