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Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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> Also, if you want basic features like cloud sync and handwriting conversion, you have to sign up for the $8/mo subscription. > Which is why hell will freeze over before I purchase a reMarkable. Maker of capital intensive hardware seeks revenue streams to bolster development and hire more engineers. Chinese MANGA equivalent enters the chat with their own hardware financed from other business units and potentially su…

> Maker of capital intensive hardware seeks revenue streams to bolster development and hire more engineers. If China wasn't in this conversation, the above would be criticized as an example of greedy MBAs nickel and diming the consumer. The capability to do file sync for free has existed on computing devices for ages, yet somehow this is an area where rent-seeking is acceptable? At least Chinese vendors like Onyx use…

>> Chinese MANGA equivalent enters the chat with their own hardware financed from other business units and potentially subsidized.

> If China wasn't in this conversation [...]

Substitute "China" for "Amazon" and my point still stands.

> [...], the above would be criticized as an example of greedy MBAs nickel and diming the consumer.

That's exactly my point though. We're too critical of small businesses with expensive products. It's unsustainable and unrewarding for small biz to innovate in hardware or expensive ventures that can easily be cloned and ripped off by big businesses that have fantastically mature revenue streams at scale.

I'll take my point further. Consumer behavior won't change and there is no solution in trying to shore up customer empathy. Instead, top down policy is the solution. Patents need to be given asymmetric teeth in order to fend off the bloodthirsty giants. That way we continue to allocate capital to innovation rather than the act of subsidized carbon copying.

A recent success case is Sonos in their patent litigation against Google's blatant copying of their multi-room audio product.

(Granted, we also need to tamp down on no-product patent trolling. Those people are nothing more than fancy thieves wearing suits.)

Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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If I had to choose between China and Big Tech spying on me (and I technically do) I would pick China any and every time honestly.

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> HN has long been infiltrated by CCP-backed commenters

I suspect this is true to some degree but I also think there is no shortage of Chinese nationalists and anti-Americans (including Americans) who by default, upvote anything that has a pro-China agenda and downvote anything that has anti-China agenda.

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There's already been choice in the 10.3" eInk note pad segment, Kobo Elipsa, Fujitsu Quaderno, Boox Note and Note Air, Likebook P10W, Supernote A5X, etc. It's just such a niche thing combined with most of the devices being Asian focused and remarkable heavy online marketing that makes them seem like the only option.

They are still relatively expensive in relation to kindles. I really hope the prices get below $200 one day.

The Kobo Sage is slightly cheaper (in the US) for a comparable product. Still over $200, but not a lot if you get a Sage on sale and buy via Rakuten for an additional rebate.

I've had a Kindle Oasis (the non-ad-supported version) for a couple years. A couple months ago I got a Kobo Sage.

Same in both Oasis and Sage: - Screen quality - Battery life (in my experience; this doesn't match the actual specs of the products though) - "Waterproof"

Differences: Favoring Kobo Sage: - Screen is a bit bigger without a significant penalty in size and weight - Compatible with a pen and has built-in drawing/OCR/note-taking capabilities - Really easy to borrow eBooks from library via OverDrive - Easier to side-load and sync free eBooks - Slightly cheaper (US)

Favoring Kindle Oasis: - Slightly lighter weight and more compact - More responsive buttons (touch screen is same responsiveness) - Amazon's book purchasing and browsing features are a bit easier to use - Amazon selection is better - "Family" sharing - Built-in free cellular wireless data for Amazon downloads and browsing

I'm happy owning both devices. If I had to choose one or the other, then:

eReader only: I'd choose Kobo only because library borrowing is so much easier. If my local library didn't have OverDrive, then I would choose the Kindle + Amazon Unlimited in a heartbeat.

eInk tablet: Kobo, no question. The Kindle is an eReader. Amazon hasn't made any effort to make it anything more. It simply doesn't make sense to me to compare any eInk Kindle to the Kobo, MatePad, ReMarkable, Boox, etc.

My partner likes eInk tablets for note taking and diagramming, not for e-reading. He has both a ReMarkable 2 and a Boox. The ReMarkable is fine, but He much prefers the Boox because it's easier to use without a subscription. But, now that my partner has used my Kobo Sage, he is unsure whether he'd buy a Boox over a Sage. He says it's a very close call and it would probably come down to price.

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> HN has long been infiltrated by CCP-backed commenters I suspect this is true to some degree but I also think there is no shortage of Chinese nationalists and anti-Americans (including Americans) who by default, upvote anything that has a pro-China agenda and downvote anything that has anti-China agenda.

> anti-Americans (including Americans)

Alas, tankies and campies exist.

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> HN has long been infiltrated by CCP-backed commenters I suspect this is true to some degree but I also think there is no shortage of Chinese nationalists and anti-Americans (including Americans) who by default, upvote anything that has a pro-China agenda and downvote anything that has anti-China agenda.

People do not possess ideas, ideas possess people. There is no escaping the memeplexes driving these and our posts.

Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Remarkable 2 is better, because of the features it doesn't have. The best feature of Remarkable 2 is how quiet it is, it doesn't do anything except for Book reading and note taking. No notifications, no messaging, no email, quiet tech.

Also eInk means that the display doesn't have a backlight, which means it doesn't catch your eye and steal your attention. +1 feature missing that makes it better.

Footnote 20-22 indicates it has a backlight. Which is honestly something I want just because I want to be able to read in a dark or low light room. Something which has kept me from buying a remarkable.

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If I had to choose between China and Big Tech spying on me (and I technically do) I would pick China any and every time honestly.

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I don't live in China. The Chinese are many miles away. I am not worth nuking, and I am not at risk of being involved in a genocide.

I live in a surveillance state. I don't really like being surveilled. Big companies share data between each other, and it influences my ability to do things like obtaining a house, or getting insurance.

The Chinese have nothing to do with my data. Western companies, on the other hand, can make a good deal of profit from data in aggregate, and don't care if it harms other people.

The Chinese stick to their own people (and what they believe to be China). Western companies, on the other hand, will track everyone on the globe, without any consent at all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearview_AI

I don't use Chinese software; it's just that the person's claim isn't nearly as insane as you're making it out to be. They're acting more rationally than you are, here. It's not Chinese scaremongering or anti-anti-Chinese scaremongering to acknowledge that China can't really do much to the average Western citizen in aggregate.

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If I had to choose between China and Big Tech spying on me (and I technically do) I would pick China any and every time honestly.

I disagree with you but I don't think the downvotes you're getting are justified. If you really do prefer Chinese spying, why so?

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I don't live in China. The Chinese are many miles away. I am not worth nuking, and I am not at risk of being involved in a genocide. I live in a surveillance state. I don't really like being surveilled. Big companies share data between each other, and it influences my ability to do things like obtaining a house, or getting insurance. The Chinese have nothing to do with my data. Western companies, on the other hand, c…

Short term thinking at its worse. China isn't going to stop at its borders. Their tech companies not only answer to their government, they are just as greedy western big tech, if not more. Your info is going to be sold to the highest bidder, plus shared with the Chinese government.

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> Like syncing local notes using common cloud services? Technically this is present on the Remarkable if you're willing to fiddle with the device some. They give you root by default (and provide an ssh service if the device is connected over usb), and the community has implemented quite a few syncing options. That said - I was also very bummed to see them introduce the paid service. I'd really like them to succeed by…

On my android devices, squelching unwanted notifications feels like whack-a-mole. I haven't been tracking it exactly, but it feels like various updated apps keep inventing new categories of notifications to get around my previous de-selections. Clarification: the above are apps for which I still want /useful/ notifications, so I can't disable all notifications for them out-right.

Apps should have a notification category if you dig into the menus. Allowing you to specify but I think its up to the app developer to have it tuned to allow it.
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