I guess I will finally have to move to that free macbook pro I was offered couple of times
now (we are 3 Windows / WSL2 users and 30+ MBP, which is sad).
Not completly ruling out Ubuntu too.
Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup
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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup
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My last round of Windows 11 installs, I just created a new MS account for the install, created a local admin user, and then deleted the MS account from the machine and built local accounts out normally. I'm sure, somewhere, there's a Microsoft VP whose "New MS accounts" KPI looks great...
Well it's all a part of them trying to turn Windows into iOS like device management system, including the "family" aspect of app store and subscriptions. When was the last time you used an iOS device without an Apple ID?
> When was the last time you used an iOS device without an Apple ID?
That's not the point. The point is that Apple gives you a choice.
Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup
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I am convinced Power Users are not the target market for Windows 11 (or maybe even windows). I mistakenly updated to it and have regretted it. Did you know they turned off animations when using Virtual Desktops [1]? A power-user feature on all the other OS' that took Microsoft till 2019 to adopt was crippled in little over 2 years after release. [1] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/report-an-issue/windo...
Color me confused. Why would I ever want animations when I change virtual desktops? I know what keys I pressed. I pressed them for a reason. The animation just gets in the way. In general, animations don't seem like a "power user" feature at all. Animations hint at new users ("hey, where did that window go when I minimized it") but aren't useful once you understand the abstraction.
There should be some feedback to something so drastic as a desktop context change
Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup
#264Hasn't this happened every major release of windows? - Windows requires some user authentication on release to prevent piracy - ... but always caves or puts OEM backdoors for major corps/customers - and those get pirated.
It's been a number of major releases since consumer Windows really cared about piracy (for end users at least, obviously if you start a business selling illegal licenses they'll still care about that). The more direct answer would seem to be this helps them push all of the cloud hosted services that are integrated into the default install now, easier for someone to pay for OneDrive or apps on the Microsoft Store or use the O365 app if they were already forced to create/sign in to a Microsoft account for those to load with.
Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup
#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am convinced Power Users are not the target market for Windows 11 (or maybe even windows). I mistakenly updated to it and have regretted it. Did you know they turned off animations when using Virtual Desktops [1]? A power-user feature on all the other OS' that took Microsoft till 2019 to adopt was crippled in little over 2 years after release. [1] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/report-an-issue/windo...
Color me confused. Why would I ever want animations when I change virtual desktops? I know what keys I pressed. I pressed them for a reason. The animation just gets in the way. In general, animations don't seem like a "power user" feature at all. Animations hint at new users ("hey, where did that window go when I minimized it") but aren't useful once you understand the abstraction.
When going "two to the right" over empty desktops it is nice to see it was triggered two times maybe? I have a habit of putting the same stuff on the same virtual desktop number, so the other are ofen empty.
Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup
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I still run windows 7 as the primary os on my daily driver.
Soon enough you will be better off running ReactOS as your daily driver.
I'd love to, and support the project with my bucks, but that seems a bit optimistic in the short term. Getting more and more work done with linux in the meantime.
With these efforts, at least my craving for sovereignty is mostly satisfied. With windows I feel like a crofter living on someone else's land.
Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup
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Forget across services, I somehow have at least three Microsoft accounts all tied to the same email address, with no way to know which account any particular service wants on any given day. Teams is particularly bad, signing me into one of the three seemingly at random so that I have to keep logging out and back in until it miraculously gets me into the correct account, guessing which password it wants each time. Any…
I like the dance I have to do to log in’ - username - password - 2fa - username - password - 2fa (but not too soon, or they’ll say I’ve used up my token supply for the day) - maybe logged in, maybe do it again
I love how whenever I log into Outlook with SSO, I'm immediately taken to a page that says I've logged out, and then have to go back 2-3 steps in my browser to a previous view of the calendar (or mail). It's like whoever rolled that out has never had to use it. It's _infuriating_, and is a daily occurrence (in two browser tabs, since I have calendar + mail open in different ones). I wish I knew of a solution.
Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup
#268I guess I will finally have to move to that free macbook pro I was offered couple of times now (we are 3 Windows / WSL2 users and 30+ MBP, which is sad). Not completly ruling out Ubuntu too.
Fedora is great, and very stable for me. I don't think you'd miss much. I'm a kernel developer and most of the people I work with also use Fedora (most of the them work for RH), and want it to just work. Ubuntu is probably just as good. I'd recommend asking for the nicest Thinkpad you can get.
Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup
#269Literally a trap to hand over your encryption keys. Never sign into an operating system with a cloud identity. You should have stopped using windows years ago. There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work.
Wake me up when I can play my sim racing games with wheel and pedal support in Linux.
Which sim racing games? I'm more of a truck sim player than a racing player, but my wheel and pedal worked as controls out of the box. For FFB I had to install an extra package, but is that really that different to installing the logitech software on windows?
Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup
#270Using Windows with a Microsoft account introduces all sorts of issues that only power users tend to come across, and power users are who Windows Pro is targeted for. For example, RDP'ing to a Windows Pro computer with a Microsoft account becomes a lot more difficult. Another example is that Windows still needs a local username and password, even if you've logged in with a Microsoft account, and this can get out of sy…
I use multiple non-admin profiles for different activities and I think this will ruin my strategy. I always make the first user a local account and never use it for anything but adding normal user profiles. I log in with my personal Microsoft account on one profile. I use a local account for a work profile that also has a MS365 account added to it (to avoid being joined to the domain). I have a second MS account for…
> I use multiple non-admin profiles for different activities
Well, shit me.
I've not used Windows since 8 came out. However, I would have loved to have had that workflow for a multiple desktop type thing.
Why didn't I think of that 20 years ago?
(for a long time, windows has internally supported multiple desktops, but it's not quite the same)