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Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by defaultname »

bruceb wrote: post #248
defaultname wrote: post #198

This sort of discussion never goes well, but using GoFundMe to finance occupations, especially across national borders , is an incredibly dangerous game. If a GoFundMe to harrass and harangue Ron DeSantis -- to effectively sponsor people to park outside his home and blast horns, among other things -- would he be okay with that? How about if Canadians paid millions for people to park on US interstates? Is that okay? T…

"This is entirely outside of the mission of GoFundMe." https://twitter.com/gofundme/status/1278759152492220416 It is not if they agree with what is happening. They are fine with occupying if they back the cause.

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by stirfish »

filed wrote: post #240
stirfish wrote: post #199

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What does "prepare to reap what you sow" mean? I'm baiting you btw.

It means prepare for the right to deny services to the left. Right owned companies. Prepare for power to be used against you when we have it. AG, president, senate, regulatory agencies.

Which services well be denied to the left? I'm also curious about your plans for regulatory agencies.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by PierceJoy »

throwawaysea wrote: post #249
defaultname wrote: post #198

This sort of discussion never goes well, but using GoFundMe to finance occupations, especially across national borders , is an incredibly dangerous game. If a GoFundMe to harrass and harangue Ron DeSantis -- to effectively sponsor people to park outside his home and blast horns, among other things -- would he be okay with that? How about if Canadians paid millions for people to park on US interstates? Is that okay? T…

The thing is BLM protesters broke laws. They started fires, destroyed businesses, trapped drivers in tunnels, attacked police, set fires in people’s homes, and declared an autonomous zone that claimed to secede from the country - and this is just from my city. GoFundMe happily allowed them to be funded while Facebook and Twitter happily allowed them to organize. Driving trucks and using the roads as they are meant to…

The vaccine isn’t being forced on anyone. Body autonomy is no more being violated here than any other time in history where vaccines have been required to do certain things, of which there are many examples.

Not to mention, all the things you listed at the start of your comment have been done by the Ottawa occupiers. I don’t like to call them truckers because most are not, and most truckers are against this occupation.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by PierceJoy »

6d6b73 wrote: post #233
defaultname wrote: post #198

This sort of discussion never goes well, but using GoFundMe to finance occupations, especially across national borders , is an incredibly dangerous game. If a GoFundMe to harrass and harangue Ron DeSantis -- to effectively sponsor people to park outside his home and blast horns, among other things -- would he be okay with that? How about if Canadians paid millions for people to park on US interstates? Is that okay? T…

It's a protest not an occupation

You obviously don’t live in Ottawa.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by olliej »

cpncrunch wrote: post #152
olliej wrote: post #105

I hate both the protest group and desantis but honestly he’s right. The only reason gofundme (or any org with similar practices) do this is because they know that some people will miss the deadline, and the it becomes pure profit.

Did you not read the article? There is no deadline. All donations are going to be automatically refunded.

That wasn’t the case when I read the article. They changed their policy after being threatened with legal action.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by blast »

6d6b73 wrote: post #233
defaultname wrote: post #198

This sort of discussion never goes well, but using GoFundMe to finance occupations, especially across national borders , is an incredibly dangerous game. If a GoFundMe to harrass and harangue Ron DeSantis -- to effectively sponsor people to park outside his home and blast horns, among other things -- would he be okay with that? How about if Canadians paid millions for people to park on US interstates? Is that okay? T…

It's a protest not an occupation

It's obviously a peaceful protest*. The word "occupation" here is already spin from the side that wants to shut it down and is trying to build a case for doing so.

Peaceful protest involves physically assembling and making noise. That is no doubt unpleasant both for those who disagree with the protestors and those who live in the neighborhood, but the right to do this in public is fundamental and vital in democratic society. I thought we were all raised to understand that? For the life of me I can't understand people who are so ready to trash those rights just because they don't happen to agree with a cause. Either these are democratic rights or they aren't, and if they are then they apply to everybody.

* Edit: I shouldn't have said obviously. I should have said: from what I've seen. Some people are posting that there have been violent things going on, but those claims have come without evidence. In the few cases where I have seen objective information, such claims have turned out to be exaggerated. If I see objective information showing that the protestors have turned violent, I will change my mind. (As long as it is clear that it really was the protestors and not someone trying to make them look bad, since that kind of thing also happens at protests.)

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Post by giaour »

alea_iacta_est wrote: post #245
batty wrote: post #200

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That's not even how a precedent works.

Oxford definition: "an earlier event or action that is regarded as an example or guide to be considered in subsequent similar circumstances."

The operative word there is "similar."

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Post by Clubber »

emkoemko wrote: post #194
saila wrote: post #151

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Spotify hosts Joe Rogan, so I'm having a hard time seeing how they're leftist. If they were activists, they would have left that money on the table and never signed a contract with Rogan in the first place. It seems to me that they follow the money like most companies.

what? why do people keep calling a person who endorsed Bernie Sanders right wing? can someone explain this to me?

If a trusted source (news) tells you Rogan is right wing and you don't hear anything to the contrary, it's easy to take that at face value and accept it. In fact based on human nature, a brain will actively resist anything to the contrary after hearing it enough times.

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Post by multjoy »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #250
defaultname wrote: post #221

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> "Prime Minister has called the protesters racists and misogynists." > He didn't. This is absurd. https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1488660359422648320... He did. Also said it a bunch of times in person.

Was he wrong, though?

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by defaultname »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #250
defaultname wrote: post #221

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> "Prime Minister has called the protesters racists and misogynists." > He didn't. This is absurd. https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1488660359422648320... He did. Also said it a bunch of times in person.

No, he didn't. A unanimous declaration by members of parliament (incredibly rare) denounced events happening in the shroud of the protests. And they are really happening!

If someone denounces looting at a BLM protest -- also something that happened -- does that mean every BLM protester is a looter? That is absurd.

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