Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes • Hacker News Board

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by trog » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 4:42 AM UTC

bourgoin wrote: post #112

I did a rough tally of the 70 removed episodes: Comedian: 45, Political Commentator/Media Personality: 8, Brian Redban: 5, Health/Fitness: 2, Scientist: 2, Author: 2, Musician: 1, Pornstar: 1, (MMA) Fight Companion: 1, Giorgio Tsoukalos, Kevin Smith, Cliffy B & Johnny Cristo (can't even figure out who these last two are)

Having worked with computers before, the explanation I am leaning to based on zero evidence is that there is a bug somewhere, possibly in the tool used to make the determination about which episodes have been 'removed'

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by stjohnswarts » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 4:43 AM UTC

mrobins wrote: post #178

One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Spotify as a music service the departure of even a few icons all of a sudden makes Apple Music very attractive.

I don't think so I think this has just blown up in the twitterverse and will be over in a couple of weeks because the twitterverse is only important in the short term and spotify knows that.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by Dylan16807 » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 4:44 AM UTC

jimbob45 wrote: post #150

xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #75

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Honestly though, why not start your own site if you’ve been deplatformed? It’s never been easier or cheaper to do. The only roadblock is DDOS protection since Cloudflare has shown an equal propensity for censorship.

That's a pretty easy roadblock. Cloudflare's removed two sites, I think?

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by steelstraw » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 4:45 AM UTC

jcims wrote: post #250

I grew up around evangelical Christians. The negative reaction to Rogan *feels* exactly like the clucking and tutting about 'dangerous ideas' that I've heard from the more cellophane elements of that crew.

Joe Rogan is the new Howard Stern.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by tablespoon » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 4:46 AM UTC

dtemp wrote: post #184

ahmed_ds wrote: post #131

I think I speak for the majority of people here. Before the Spotify deal, you would just see couple of Joe Rogan clips on YouTube and you have sat through maybe 3-4 entire podcasts. You don't care much about MMA or you don't think comedians are that important/hypeworthy as the JRE fandom would claim. After the Spotify deal you just slowly stopped even seeing the clips because for some reason you just don't care to se…

When I heard of JRE many years ago, I said to myself, "do I care to hear the endless opinions of the former host of Fear Factor? Nope." And that was that, never even decided to give it a try with so much other potential content available.

> When I heard of JRE many years ago, I said to myself, "do I care to hear the endless opinions of the former host of Fear Factor? Nope." And that was that, never even decided to give it a try with so much other potential content available.

And the time commitment. I have a friend who's a big fan and kept pushing me to listen, but I just plain don't have the time to listen to a meandering 3 hour podcast, even if I was interested.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by steelstraw » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 4:48 AM UTC

dtemp wrote: post #184

ahmed_ds wrote: post #131

I think I speak for the majority of people here. Before the Spotify deal, you would just see couple of Joe Rogan clips on YouTube and you have sat through maybe 3-4 entire podcasts. You don't care much about MMA or you don't think comedians are that important/hypeworthy as the JRE fandom would claim. After the Spotify deal you just slowly stopped even seeing the clips because for some reason you just don't care to se…

When I heard of JRE many years ago, I said to myself, "do I care to hear the endless opinions of the former host of Fear Factor? Nope." And that was that, never even decided to give it a try with so much other potential content available.

That's kind of a misplaced thought since the show isn't a monologue. It's a dialogue hosted by a friendly and intellectually curious person.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by ifyoubuildit » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 4:48 AM UTC

jcims wrote: post #250

I grew up around evangelical Christians. The negative reaction to Rogan *feels* exactly like the clucking and tutting about 'dangerous ideas' that I've heard from the more cellophane elements of that crew.

Yeah, it feels like theres a new kind of conservativism being born in the last couple years.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by JPKab » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 4:48 AM UTC

dtemp wrote: post #184

ahmed_ds wrote: post #131

I think I speak for the majority of people here. Before the Spotify deal, you would just see couple of Joe Rogan clips on YouTube and you have sat through maybe 3-4 entire podcasts. You don't care much about MMA or you don't think comedians are that important/hypeworthy as the JRE fandom would claim. After the Spotify deal you just slowly stopped even seeing the clips because for some reason you just don't care to se…

When I heard of JRE many years ago, I said to myself, "do I care to hear the endless opinions of the former host of Fear Factor? Nope." And that was that, never even decided to give it a try with so much other potential content available.

It's the guests.

He's like Oprah in her peak: He's disarming, humble, and has a knack for getting even the stiffest guests to open up. And some of the most fascinating guests are people you've never heard of.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by thebigjewbowski » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 4:49 AM UTC

I love Joe. I use Spotify exclusively to listen to his podcast. I listen to every episode… I wish there was a way to tell them if it wasn’t for his show I’d never use their app but I suspect they already know that.

Unfortunately I think attacks on his having been prescribed ivermectin and his guests like the highly published cardiologist and the guy that contracts with the defense department and has patents related to MRNA really got on his nerves and recently he’s been leaning too hard into the “mainstream media lies” discussions, it’s nearly bordering on an obsession. I was surprised he was even discussing it with Jim Gaffigan.

We’re at a very bad place in American discourse. In a recent episode (past 2 weeks) Bill Maher quoted some survey that nearly a majority of Americans believe that we’re headed towards a civil war.

Attacking, degrading, deplatforming and silencing our fellow citizens is only going to push us further towards the brink.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by xdennis » Sat, Feb 05, 2022, 4:50 AM UTC

bachmeier wrote: post #238

Predictably, people break out the C-word. Every business decides what they sell and what they don't. Do they also complain about censorship and shout at the manager of a shoe store for not selling books? Spotify decided they don't want to sell those episodes of JR. That's not censorship, it's business, and it's very different than if it's done by the government.

> Do they also complain about censorship and shout at the manager of a shoe store for not selling books?

No. Censorship is the suppression of speech.

If you don't sell a book because you don't think it fits your store, or you don't think it's profitable, that's not censorship.

But if you refuse to carry a book SPECIFICALLY because you don't like the message, then that IS censorship.

Some forms of censorship are illegal, and some forms are legally required. But that doesn't mean that it's not censorship just because you agree with that's being censored.