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Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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Something has to be fishy with this because I get tons of "Untitled" results now which directly lead to spam. This sucks big time because I usually got really good results since I search a lot coding related things and now I cannot use this account anymore for searching

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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post #177

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Would also be nice if they edited things to actually be true, e.g. * e-bike with 10 miles of actual range even though they advertise 30 miles * laptop with 2 hours of battery life at 100% CPU usage even though they advertise 10 hours * median $450 flight even though they advertise it as $199

You're never going to guarantee some kind of range on an e-bike. What's the temperature of the battery? Is it mostly uphill or down hill? How much are you going to brake? And advertising laptop battery life based on the CPU getting pegged to 100% gives meaningless information as its rare for people to actually have their device running at 100% load anyways.

> You're never going to guarantee some kind of range on an e-bike. What's the temperature of the battery? Is it mostly uphill or down hill? How much are you going to brake?

Yeah but testing the e-bike on a track and telling the public it has 30 miles of range based on that is disingenuous.

Instead, go to a city with an average amount of hills, stop lights, and cold weather and give in a go, and tell that number to the public. If it beats that, in their actual city they'll only be pleasantly surprised. Right now you strand a shitton of people because they think they have 30 miles.

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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post #177

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Would also be nice if they edited things to actually be true, e.g. * e-bike with 10 miles of actual range even though they advertise 30 miles * laptop with 2 hours of battery life at 100% CPU usage even though they advertise 10 hours * median $450 flight even though they advertise it as $199

> laptop with 2 hours of battery life at 100% CPU usage Is there any laptop on the market that lives up to this. Even top specced MBPs I've gotten from work fall down when you actually use the CPU with compilers and VMs.

Oh just an example. Hammer it at 100% CPU usage and report battery life based on that.

Or a (min,max) based on idle and 100% CPU.

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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The solution is not to re-title, the solution is to de-rank clickbait.

Well nowadays a lot of well known websites use clickbaits regularly, e.g., wsj and NYTimes. Many times, they are willing to summarize the news in the title when the news itself is not that complicated.

I'm sure they'd change to better headlines to avoid getting downranked.

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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post #258

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> I don't think I've ever searched for a recipe and come across a barebones Gantt-chart-style engineer-thinking recipe plan. https://clovegarden.com/recipes/index.html

Sorry, I might not have been clear enough. I know they exist. I'm saying that I've never searched for a recipe for something and a leading result has been in that sort of format. Google has created the environment in which the maligned 'epic story and photo album finished by actual recipe' formula wins through, yet the recipe creators get the ridicule.

> Google has created the environment in which the maligned 'epic story and photo album finished by actual recipe' formula wins through, yet the recipe creators get the ridicule.

They still deserve it, IMO. Willingly making a clown, a pawn of an ad-spamming corporation, out of oneself by doing one's darnedest to "win through" at some perverse game rigged by the aforementioned scourge of the Internet, is neither a natural human right nor a divine command. Not playing that game is still a valid move, and AFAICS the only honourable -- i.e. the only non-ridicule-worthy -- one.

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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post #258

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Sorry, I might not have been clear enough. I know they exist. I'm saying that I've never searched for a recipe for something and a leading result has been in that sort of format. Google has created the environment in which the maligned 'epic story and photo album finished by actual recipe' formula wins through, yet the recipe creators get the ridicule.

> Google has created the environment in which the maligned 'epic story and photo album finished by actual recipe' formula wins through, yet the recipe creators get the ridicule. They still deserve it, IMO. Willingly making a clown, a pawn of an ad-spamming corporation, out of oneself by doing one's darnedest to "win through" at some perverse game rigged by the aforementioned scourge of the Internet, is neither a natu…

So if you're super-keen on food and trying to establish a career as a recipe creator or food photographer, it's dishonourable to: put in a lot of effort custom-writing supporting material and taking quality photos of the dish you're pitching to people? Sounds like these things traumatise you! :)

I'd agree that misleading made-for-AdSense sites that purport to, but then don't, answer a question, farm out writing to $5/page content squads and intersperse stock photos - that's shoddy. But all the recipe sites I find in my searches and have to scroll down for the content, they always seem like genuine, personal efforts. If I'm getting the content for free, scrolling a little bit as a price isn't too laborious and a stretch to think of it as dishonourable work IMO.

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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post #268

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> Google has created the environment in which the maligned 'epic story and photo album finished by actual recipe' formula wins through, yet the recipe creators get the ridicule. They still deserve it, IMO. Willingly making a clown, a pawn of an ad-spamming corporation, out of oneself by doing one's darnedest to "win through" at some perverse game rigged by the aforementioned scourge of the Internet, is neither a natu…

So if you're super-keen on food and trying to establish a career as a recipe creator or food photographer, it's dishonourable to: put in a lot of effort custom-writing supporting material and taking quality photos of the dish you're pitching to people? Sounds like these things traumatise you! :) I'd agree that misleading made-for-AdSense sites that purport to, but then don't, answer a question, farm out writing to $5…

> So if you're super-keen on food and trying to establish a career

IOW, you're trying to earn money. Sure, go ahead -- but then you get to pay the price. If the method you're trying to earn money by is going to involve playing along in the game of clickbait, then the price you get to pay is going to be, to be seen as a purveyor of clickbait. Which I, and I suspect quite a few others with me, see as distinctly less than honourable.

It's a free choice: Nobody is forcing anybody to "establish a career as a recipe creator or food photographer" on the ad-financed Internet. If they choose to play the clickbait clown/scum game, they're making themselves into -- so, in the end, are -- clickbait clown/scum. I sure didn't tell them to do that, so I'm perfectly free to see them as such for doing it.

They, OTOH, are perfectly free to try it some other way: publishing printed cookbooks in stead of Internet clickbait; or something adjacent, like run cooking classes, start a restaurant or catering business... Or to do something else altogether.

They could always go into the deeply honourable (/s) business of software engineering, which nowadays seems to consist to about 45% of running ad-spam networks, to about 45% of writing SEO crap to get your ads onto those networks, and about 10% other development... :-( What, me cynic? Bah, geroffmylawn!

Re: Google rewrites many page titles

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post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if you're super-keen on food and trying to establish a career as a recipe creator or food photographer, it's dishonourable to: put in a lot of effort custom-writing supporting material and taking quality photos of the dish you're pitching to people? Sounds like these things traumatise you! :) I'd agree that misleading made-for-AdSense sites that purport to, but then don't, answer a question, farm out writing to $5…

> So if you're super-keen on food and trying to establish a career IOW, you're trying to earn money. Sure, go ahead -- but then you get to pay the price. If the method you're trying to earn money by is going to involve playing along in the game of clickbait, then the price you get to pay is going to be, to be seen as a purveyor of clickbait. Which I, and I suspect quite a few others with me, see as distinctly less th…

I have dozens of cookbooks. Almost every single one is absolutely packed with personal details about the chef and background information on the recipe (who taught them the recipe, their beloved Nanna's method, the history of nut x in remote tribal desert y, etc).

I've been to cooking schools in multiple countries. All have gone into detail about the background of the chef and each recipe.

Same with restaurants. Many restaurants and certainly almost every fine-dining restaurant pushes the profile of the head chef.

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