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Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by terminalcommand »

jader201 wrote: post #151
terminalcommand wrote: post #47

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Yeah this is true. When I say people I'm working from home, they look with pitty. When I say, I'm working remotely, people's impression change. I don't know why this is like this, but it is true for me.

> When I say people I'm working from home, they look with pitty. That sounds odd. Pity is usually expressed when you're in an unfortunate position you had/have no control over. Most people (should) understand that most people work from home not out of force, but out of choice.

Well, in the beginning this was the case. But as time passed, some people returned to the office, our office didn't. Working from home has its benefits, but it also isolates you, makes it harder to seperate personal/professional life.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by frenchyatwork »

yCombLinks wrote: post #243
robbintt wrote: post #194

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Endemic is not a social condition that people "accept". It means the virus is found at a baseline level without external inputs (wikipedia).

It doesn't really matter how wikipedia defines it, what matters is how governments and companies are going to behave, and how long it takes them to realize covid is here to stay.

It matters as words are useful for communication only if we can come to some agreement about what they mean.

What you're suggesting is that people accept that the cost of avoiding COVID and "flattening the curve" isn't worth it, and that we just let the curve do its thing. Hopefully the result that it will either become endemic or extinct, but neither of those are certain.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by marcind »

lumost wrote: post #103
jspash wrote: post #31

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"COVID has generally proven to both employers and employees that productivity doesn't drop that much" Is that a personal observation of yours, or has this now become "fact"? The reason I ask is that I would like to find studies - not just surveys or anecdotal evidence - that attempt to quantify the quality and productivity of WFH since the recently pandemic changes. At work, we've had countless discussions about this…

Anecdotally, this has been coming in waves. Early in the pandemic ( Mar 2020 ) -> no one knows how to WFH as a team. There is insanity in the world and work takes a backburner for most people. Mid-Pandemic (Fall 2020) -> Companies push workers to get back to productivity and deliver. Workers are used to the remote world and productivity returns to normal. Current ( Fall 2021) -> Workers just seem tired . Retention is…

Hey, lumost,

I agree with most of your assessment. I particularly like the focus on fatigue. I think this tiredness (in oh so many ways) has yet to be fully understood - not to mention, addressed. If I may be so bold, I'll go one step further: something has got to give! People can't be tired all the time. Something has to (and will) change. Here's hoping that in 2022 it'll be largely for the better.

As for the whiteboard, I humbly offer our team's answer: https://sharetheboard.com We too couldn't bear to be whiteboard-less and have come up with at least a partial solution. If you have time to kick the tires on it, I'd love some feedback.

All the best in the New Year!

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by lumost »

marcind wrote: post #263
lumost wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally, this has been coming in waves. Early in the pandemic ( Mar 2020 ) -> no one knows how to WFH as a team. There is insanity in the world and work takes a backburner for most people. Mid-Pandemic (Fall 2020) -> Companies push workers to get back to productivity and deliver. Workers are used to the remote world and productivity returns to normal. Current ( Fall 2021) -> Workers just seem tired . Retention is…

Hey, lumost, I agree with most of your assessment. I particularly like the focus on fatigue. I think this tiredness (in oh so many ways) has yet to be fully understood - not to mention, addressed. If I may be so bold, I'll go one step further: something has got to give! People can't be tired all the time. Something has to (and will) change. Here's hoping that in 2022 it'll be largely for the better. As for the whiteb…

Hey Marcind! this is an interesting app a few questions that I wasn't able to get a clear answer on in your FAQ.

0) What data is shared through your servers?

1) What video conference tools does this support?

2) Can I use a mobile phone to capture the whiteboard?

0 is the most important part for my current employer as we can't use any tools which share any data with third parties without a lengthy approval process. If there is a guarantee that the app doesn't share data with a third party then it can more easily be tested at a team level (somewhat of a unique requirement for large tech companies).

Feedback on the experience: I tested out the tool from my personal linux machine (Razer blade 15) using a hand written note pad.

0) The experience is really promising

1) I can't hold a notepad steady enough for the video to capture the text appropriately, flipping the notepad around to write more text removes the existing text from the space.

2) I had to hold the notepad within ~6 inches of the laptop camera to have the pen/handwritten text appear clearly. This could be due to the quality of the laptop camera - which is certainly inferior to my iphone 12 pro's camera, and my work machines MBP 16 inch camera.

3) Overall I'd give it a proper test with my coworkers if not for the data sharing/video conference requirements of my current employer.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by h0w1tzr »

I've been working 100% remote for over 5 years and I feel like my skill set is becoming rusty because I'm no longer able to work directly with people and I'm also becoming even more of an introvert because I can't grab a coffee or a lunch or even a drive-by conversation with coworkers. I desperately want to return to an office environment and I feel like my home office has become a prison for me. There's no start or stop to my days and I feel like I'm working 100% of the time due to a lack of transition from work-life to home-life. I've been trying to work out of a local hackerspace, but because of the pandemic there aren't a lot of people that go work from there.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a job in 2021 if I dislike remote?

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Post by marcind »

lumost wrote: post #264
marcind wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, lumost, I agree with most of your assessment. I particularly like the focus on fatigue. I think this tiredness (in oh so many ways) has yet to be fully understood - not to mention, addressed. If I may be so bold, I'll go one step further: something has got to give! People can't be tired all the time. Something has to (and will) change. Here's hoping that in 2022 it'll be largely for the better. As for the whiteb…

Hey Marcind! this is an interesting app a few questions that I wasn't able to get a clear answer on in your FAQ. 0) What data is shared through your servers? 1) What video conference tools does this support? 2) Can I use a mobile phone to capture the whiteboard? 0 is the most important part for my current employer as we can't use any tools which share any data with third parties without a lengthy approval process. If…

Hi, lumost - Happy New Year!

Thanks for taking the time to test out the app. Really appreciate the thoughtful feedback. In answer to your questions:

0) In short, unless you volunteer to share data - to get a discount or to use the free version - no data is shared (for your company test, simply use a Trial of the Starter version and you should be good to go).

We do track (anonymous) UI clicks, essentially to make sure the app is working. If this is prohibiting you from a broader pilot, contact me and we'll figure something out.

1) "Integration" with video conferencing currently relies on screen sharing: so.. it supports all tools! We are working on a few platform-specific integrations and would love your feedback here.

2) The primary use case is board (whiteboard, blackboard, flipchart, etc.) sharing - usually via a laptop or some external camera. We will be supporting a mobile version but to do it justice we'll need to release some apps. The amount of real-time processing going on already is quite ambitious; adding a useful image stabilization or surface detection to be executed in a browser has proven too heavy for most devices. That said, we may release a thinned-down version for mobile capturing before we do the apps (waiting on some POCs to inform this).

To sum up, for your broader test, I'd recommend: - using the Trial (of the Starter version) - using a laptop (or external cam) pointed at a whiteboard

And contact me at "marcin" [at] sharetheboard.com if you have any special requests or follow-ups. Would love to get feedback from your team!

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